How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
Ronald Reagan
wait... first it becomes something 'with no potential to ever become a human being'... and then it goes on to become a human being?
Abortionism truly is a religion
Once the renunciation has been made, the mind, instead of operating freely, becomes the servant of a higher and unquestioned purpose. To deny the truth is an act of service...Any genuine intellectual contact which you have with him involves a challenge to his fundamental faith, a struggle for his soul.
-Arthur Koestler
That was my crack at A liberal argument for abortion, valuing the community over the individual. Whether it's a harbinger of the demise of society is a function of their short-term thinking.
Not so, outside interference is the premise. When fertilized eggs do not make it to full term, for whatever reason, with no outside interference then so be it.
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"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
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"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
Nope, those are merely two examples of a human not being able to survive certain elements, just as some babies die right after birth, are stillborn, etc etc.
If the fertilized egg failed to implant, then either the baby fetus didnt perform well enough to get implanted, or the mothers body failed in its job to implant it, in which case, the baby wasnt taken care of properly enough to survive, not any different than if the mothers body kills the infant under a large host of other possibilities. In which, these are cases in which the fertilized egg baby was not provided with proper nutrition or protection from the elements of nature, which can include parts of the mothers body.
Reading further, FJ's response may be better than mine...
You do support mandatory blood testing if a cop "suspects" one of drunk driving. With so many crooked cops, its impossible to deny that some completely sober people driving will be forced to give blood. See revelarts
video on cops confiscating money when the driver has done NOTHING ILLEGAL
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NOIR DO I KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CRITICAL THINKING
relevance?.....
translation "how am I going to claw my way out of this one".....face it Miss......you believe that which does go on to be born, grow up, have children of it's own.....has no potential to be a human being......
if by "ceding authority" you mean keeping people from killing their unborn children.......positively!.......
...full immersion.....
Since it is a hypothetical where U acknowledge the existence of a creatopr of human life, it is His, the lifes belong to him, not to the women and men who go through the process of procreation, hence it is His right to do what He wants with that life.
Again, assuming there is a God and Heaven, those lifes are better off anyways, But dont go claiming, then the babies we abort are better off also, because it simply isn't our call to make.
The circumstances of what will occur afterbirth does not affect the morality or lack of, regarding the act of abortion
yet another irrelevant issue as to the morality.....abortion
I DONT CLAIM TO KN0OW ANYTHING ABOUT HUMAN NATURE
NOIR DO I KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CRITICAL THINKING
Does that imply you're okay with the decision of the two parents if they decide to abort?
The latter 15% of failed pregancies are often the result of chromosomal abnormality. Why can't you understand that if the blueprint (DNA) is severely flawed, the result of the construction is NOT going to be a human being?
I support mandatory blood testing IF, there is probable cause, i.e. erratic driving, smell of alcohol, failed sobriety test, and the suspect then refuses to comply with a breath test to establish proof of DUI. Your contention that a sober person is going to meet all those requirements is PURE BULLSHIT FANTASY! A sober person will comply with the breath test.
Assuming you consider your god to be just, and assuming your god implants a soul into a human being at the moment of conception (a popular argument), the fact that some 30% of these souls never see the light of day implies that abortion is a just act, unless you can also believe your god is capable of being unjust, at which point one would have to ask who in their right mind would worship such a deity.
So you'd have no problem imprisoning a pregnant woman and forcing her to carry to term. You have a lot of nerve railing about morality.
I DONT CLAIM TO KN0OW ANYTHING ABOUT HUMAN NATURE
NOIR DO I KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CRITICAL THINKING
There really isn't a clear or perfect answer to the whole abortion issue-- that's why govt should stay the f out of it. That includes funding it. Its an elective procedure and unless the fetus can live outside the womb, its not an individual.
Is it Human? I'd say aborting an unwanted child isn't all that "human." Let see-- a head, two arms, two legs, ten fingers, ten toes. That's what a human is right? Or is it something more? Humans, by and large, are a loving social being. Of course humans, mankind, whatever you want call us have a duality, where man is selfish, even willing to kill for self-preservation. It's a fine line to walk and there's always faults, but through the freedom of choice we succeed or fail, both as individuals and as a society. Impose your will on another and both fail.
So far as severe defects, is that the responsibility of the public? I have a family cancer risk. Which I could premise as a defect-- should govt treat my cancer should I get it?
Don't get me wrong, I think abortion is a stupid behavior; but stupid exists, and will continue to as long govt protects people from their own behavior!
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