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    Quote Originally Posted by J.T View Post
    Quit evading the question, coward.

    What changes? Why is it okay to kill your baby in cold blood one day and not the next?
    I'll answer your question AFTER you've answered mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    The very act of an abortion places the mother's health at risk, now and in the future. I recall sending Psychoblues a link awhile back.
    Not nearly as much as a back alley abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    I'll answer your question AFTER you've answered mine.


    The OP was there before any question you're about to pretend to have ever asked anyone.

    Why can't you ever be honest, coward? Answer the question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Not nearly as much as a back alley abortion.
    Why can democrats always find a back-alley babykiller willing to shove their beloved coathanger into her uterus and scrape away at her insides,... but never a back-alley condom salesman willing to smuggle prophylactics across the border into the non-existent Land Where Condoms are Ne'er to be Found?

    Maybe if you took 1/10th the effort you put into finding someone willing to kill your baby and instead used in to control your urge to rip off your pants and fuck everyone in sight in the hopes of having your first creampie gangbang before summer break, you wouldn't have these problems in the first place.



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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    The very act of an abortion places the mother's health at risk, now and in the future. I recall sending Psychoblues a link awhile back.
    There are risks associated with having children too, now and in the future; but who bears the prime responsibility, the individual or society? Classic slippery slope really-- do we want govt dictating our behaviors and bearing the responsibility for results? I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    do we want govt dictating our behaviors
    Nop, not at all. Rape and serial murder should be totally legal...



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    Quote Originally Posted by J.T View Post


    The OP was there before any question you're about to pretend to have ever asked anyone.

    Why can't you ever be honest, coward? Answer the question.
    I've already answered several of your questions in this thread...I'll answer this one AFTER you've answered mine.



    Quote Originally Posted by J.T View Post
    Why can democrats always find a back-alley babykiller willing to shove their beloved coathanger into her uterus and scrape away at her insides,... but never a back-alley condom salesman willing to smuggle prophylactics across the border into the non-existent Land Where Condoms are Ne'er to be Found?

    Maybe if you took 1/10th the effort you put into finding someone willing to kill your baby and instead used in to control your urge to rip off your pants and fuck everyone in sight in the hopes of having your first creampie gangbang before summer break, you wouldn't have these problems in the first place.
    I'm all for using birth control to reduce the numbers of abortions...problem is the thumpers would rather teach just say no.

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    if nothing else, J.T. has finally answered the question of whether someone can be opposed to abortion for other than religious reasons......
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.T View Post
    Nop, not at all. Rape and serial murder should be totally legal...
    If your gonna quote me, get the context. "and accepting the responsibility" was at the end for a reason. OK, we punish rape and serial murder, govt(society) bears the responsibility for the incarceration. SO if a woman wants an abortion and cant get it-- does gvt bear the responsibility to help her raise and care for that child?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Not nearly as much as a back alley abortion.
    Then it's disingenuous to argue for abortion as being "for womyn's health" when abortion seems to be causative to higher health risks later on.

    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    There are risks associated with having children too, now and in the future; but who bears the prime responsibility, the individual or society? Classic slippery slope really-- do we want govt dictating our behaviors and bearing the responsibility for results? I don't.
    PB argued that he was pro-abortion because it was in the best interest of women's health even when it was shown that abortion was contrary to women's health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Then it's disingenuous to argue for abortion as being "for womyn's health" when abortion seems to be causative to higher health risks later on.
    Guess it depends on your source.

    http://www.prochoice.org/about_abort..._abortion.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Then it's disingenuous to argue for abortion as being "for womyn's health" when abortion seems to be causative to higher health risks later on.
    the death rate from legal abortion is .7 deaths per 100k abortions.....
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15051566

    since Roe v Wade, there have been over 49 million abortions.....

    when have you ever seen anything about a woman dying from an abortion in any news report on the issue....

    the left is simply not being honest about the issue....

    I have made 24 posts to this thread......most of them were questions directed at Missileman......he didn't respond to a single one of them......
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    the death rate from legal abortion is .7 deaths per 100k abortions.....
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15051566

    since Roe v Wade, there have been over 49 million abortions.....

    when have you ever seen anything about a woman dying from an abortion in any news report on the issue....

    the left is simply not being honest about the issue....
    and what's the maternal death rate among live births? a quick search returned 11 per 100k-- 13 times times higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    and what's the maternal death rate among live births? a quick search returned 11 per 100k-- 13 times times higher.
    What ;is the death rate of children targeted for abortion?

    In an abortion, at least one life is almost guaranteed to be killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Then it's disingenuous to argue for abortion as being "for womyn's health" when abortion seems to be causative to higher health risks later on.



    PB argued that he was pro-abortion because it was in the best interest of women's health even when it was shown that abortion was contrary to women's health.
    I'm against abortion, but that doesnt mean I'm for its prohibition. See my post re: maternal death rates being higher among live births; I wouldn't use these facts as support for either side. "Lies, damned lies and..."

    Quote Originally Posted by LuvRPgrl View Post
    What ;is the death rate of children targeted for abortion?

    In an abortion, at least one life is almost guaranteed to be killed.
    Again with the killing of. We're just gonna have to agree to disagree. I sympathize with your point of view, but I've drawn a line in the sand regarding freedom vs protection on this issue. Whatever losses are endured are less than those forgone through additional government encroachment. I choose my battles carefully, and, IMHO, enforcing pro-life is a far worse solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    and what's the maternal death rate among live births? a quick search returned 11 per 100k-- 13 times times higher.
    ????....so the fact that there are health consequences to having a child justifies ignoring the fact there are health consequences to legal abortions?.......
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