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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    It's a non sequitur. Murder/assault are direct offenses on another human being where the only one offended by gays is you and I don't think there's any bodily harm there. Besides, they do have rights such as, "you have the right to remain silent..."
    Maybe they should take into account that they were born with this pre-disposition and give them lesser sentences in jail and health treatments, since they were born that way and they didn't "choose" their destructive behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    No, it "validated" nothing. The NEW laws being created are validating destructive behavior.

    Should laws now be created to give smokers special rights when dealing with health issues and insurance? What about drug addicts? What about gamblers? Laws the way they are now leave them shit out of luck in many areas because of their choices. But should we change things up to validate their choices?

    You choose destructive, deviant and abnormal behavior - you should not be rewarded, given special rights, legitimized or be considered an "equal" of those of us who choose not to engage in said behavior.
    I'm not sure how you say that with a straight face, it's all about you and how you believe things should be. I'd prefer the government remove itself from validation of anything, I don't want to reward anyone with "rights."
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Maybe they should take into account that they were born with this pre-disposition and give them lesser sentences in jail and health treatments, since they were born that way and they didn't "choose" their destructive behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    FJ, why is it that you love the homosexuals so much?
    Is this another of your "closet gay" debating ploys?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm not sure how you say that with a straight face, it's all about you and how you believe things should be. I'd prefer the government remove itself from validation of anything, I don't want to reward anyone with "rights."
    Regarding the bolded portion - please show me where you spoke out when certain states "validated" queers when they changed laws to give them "equal rights". If it goes both ways as you're trying to imply, and you don't want government involved at all, then surely you must have been pissed when they got involved again to validate the queers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Is this another of your "closet gay" debating ploys?
    Queer supporters like to label others as "homophobes" or that they have "homophobia" because they speak out against the queers deviant and destructive behavior. If you're doing the opposite, then that must mean you have an irrational attraction of sorts towards them.

    And you say this is "another of your"... Show me where I EVER used "closet gay" as a debate tactic with you, or anyone else. Or are you once again just making shit up on the fly again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Queer supporters like to label others as "homophobes" or that they have "homophobia" because they speak out against the queers deviant and destructive behavior. If you're doing the opposite, then that must mean you have an irrational attraction of sorts towards them.
    Have I labeled anyone a homophobe? Nice "irrational attraction" debating ploy.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    And you say this is "another of your"... Show me where I EVER used "closet gay" as a debate tactic with you, or anyone else. Or are you once again just making shit up on the fly again?
    It's only a matter of time eh? Besides how many times has Missile or KRB been accused in the same way?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    If you're doing the opposite, then that must mean you have an irrational attraction of sorts towards them.
    For you to even ask a question is just stupid, I would have the exact same position even if I hated every gay person that walked because it's not for the government to hold power over its' citizens like that. I don't want them validating what I DO believe in because that affords them the power to all of a sudden validate what I DON'T believe in. Do you want them to have that control or no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Queer supporters like to label others as "homophobes" or that they have "homophobia" because they speak out against the queers deviant and destructive behavior. If you're doing the opposite, then that must mean you have an irrational attraction of sorts towards them.

    And you say this is "another of your"... Show me where I EVER used "closet gay" as a debate tactic with you, or anyone else. Or are you once again just making shit up on the fly again?
    Queers attempt to do things as old days communists did in order to justify their wickedness.Daring to rewrite the Bible by removing verses and adding their heresies that God loves and accepts them.Rewriting the world history by saying lies that good people like John Calvin,Puritans,etc were queers and dykes.Inventing junk science propogated by The Left rulled media that homosexuality is a genetic besides choices.The Laramie Project play that falsely makes Matthew Shepard as a martyr of so-called homophobia,but in fact according to Laramie PD,he was killed for money by scums like him who were drunk and doped and had nothing to do with homophobia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    FJ, why is it that you love the homosexuals so much?
    Quote Originally Posted by John 13
    34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
    No homosexuals I know deserve any less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    No homosexuals I know deserve any less.
    God truly warns us in the Bible about homosexuality,gays,and gay agenda.Sodom and Gomorrah is a very perfect example to teach the world throughout milleniums and centuries.Even mighty Roman Empire started getting weakened in AD due to the acceptance of gays,finally Rome collapsed by massive invasions of Huns led by King Attila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Lemon View Post
    God truly warns us in the Bible about homosexuality,gays,and gay agenda.Sodom and Gomorrah is a very perfect example to teach the world throughout milleniums and centuries.Even mighty Roman Empire started getting weakened in AD due to the acceptance of gays,finally Rome collapsed by massive invasions of Huns led by King Attila.
    Why did Rome Fall?

    There are adherents to single factors, but more people think a combination of such factors as Christianity, decadence, lead, monetary trouble, and military problems caused the Fall of Rome. Imperial incompetence and chance could be added to the list. Even the rise of Islam is proposed as the reason for Rome's fall, by some who think the Fall of Rome happened at Constantinople in A.D. 1453.
    Historians of the Fall of Rome

    The first major historian to deal with the decline and Fall of Rome was the 5th century historian Zosimus, but the best-known name connected with the Fall of Rome is Edward Gibbon. Historians of ancient Rome have long been fascinated with the fall of this powerful empire. Recently there has been a spate of books explaining it:
    The Decline and Fall of Rome

    The Roman Empire not only expanded but was modified by the conquered people. The structure of the Roman government changed to deal with new situations -- including moving the capital away from the city of Rome -- but not necessarily enough.
    http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/romefallarticles/a/fallofrome.htm

    Hmm, Nothing about homosexuality. Weird
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    No homosexuals I know deserve any less.
    Save your quotes, I'm not religious. And the queers deserve help for their destructive behavior, not special rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Save your quotes, I'm not religious. And the queers deserve help for their destructive behavior, not special rights.
    So, you asked the question. You believe we should force "help" on them then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    So, you asked the question. You believe we should force "help" on them then?
    No, I said they deserved help. Fuck 'em if they don't want it, but I sure as shit don't think they deserve to be catered to as a result of their deviant and destructive lifestyle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Who's batS' crazy? You clearly equate violence with homosexuality. You'll also have to point out the "lib" to which you are referring.



    That's a great defense of your indefensible position.
    Obviously you aren't bright enough to use absurdity to shine the light on absurdity which is what queer choice marriage is.................fucking absurd.

    Jesus, where do these idiots come from?

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