"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
Oh, so you don't believe you deserve to keep all the money you earn? It is the government's money? Your money belongs to the collective to do with as the collective decides?
The bottom 50% controls 2.5% of the wealth. I'll tell ya what, we'll agree to your demand for 'fairness'; when we all control the same amount of wealth and have the same income, we can all pay the same tax rate.give the majority a free ride and steal money from the rich
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JT - How much of total taxes collected is paid by the top 2% of the richest people in America? I'd say they pay their fair share already. Tax should be based the same across the board on each dollar, not by who can give the government the most money to pay for their constituents to get a free ride.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
You realize you're responding to jimnyc's argument, right?
Right, you can call the capital gains tax a 'national sustainability contribution' too if you want, but it's still a tax.
Maybe we should call it a 'fee'?
Also, will you people please make up your minds? Half the time you people say I'm a communist (which would mean I seek the abolition of the nation-state and pursue a stateless and classless society) and the other half of the time you people claim I'm a statist (which would make one wonder why I'm always arguing against the USA PATRIOT act, the massive military, the worship of COTUS and SCTOUS, and federalism).
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1. there are alot of people who look to others for leadership. They dont want to invest their money in speculative ventures. They like the tried and true, slow but steady, life is fine as it is.
Then there are others who are always trying to improve things. They invest their money into speculative ventures.
2. If a person saves their money, instead of paying for things like big screen tv, beer, audacious 20" wheels, etc etc, and then invest it in a venture,, but it goes belly up, are the other taxpayers going to make sure he gets his money back? If he has to pay for potential losses, then he should collect potential profits. If he doesnt, nobody will invest and we will still be pulling plows with cows.
3. CLASS WARFARE? The idea the Dems are for the little guy is a joke. They get more from big corps than the Repubs. They represent the trial lawyers assoc. What they do is make it LOOK like they are fighting the Repubs bu t they arent.
4.One part of the solution is for the govt to run only things that the private section cant. When they start paying for things like college education, its bogus. I couldnt afford a college edu, but now they expect me to pay for someone elses? How is that fair. ANSWER THE QUESTION.
IS IT FAIR I PAY FOR THE COLLEGE EDU OF AN ILLEGAL ALIEN, BUT CANT AFFORD TO SEND MY OWN DAUGHTER TO COLLEGE?
5.They use the worn out excuse, well, instead of leeching off the govt, the illegal dude will get a better job with a college degree, and that will benefit everyone. GUESS WHAT? Anything can apply to that. If Im driving a new car, I dont pollute the air as much, therefore.....
6. When taxes go up, private charity donations go down. Guess who donates to those charities? NOT PEOPLE ON WELFARE. Very wealthy people set up foundations with their money to fund things that benefit everyone. That way the money is utilized much more effectively.
7. If those liberals/Dems were serious about the upper classes paying more, they would donate more of their money, but they dont. When asked, they say no.re
8.When the govt hands out freebies to the poor, they no longer have gratitude. They have the attitude that the govt owes them, like govt prints money for free or something. NONE of them understand how the economy works and how welfare is funded. They have the opportunity for a FREE education, but they throw it away. Guess what, most rich people got rich by becoming educated first.
. I see these dumb, ignorant people all the time, they dont work, they dont go to school, they do nothing to improve their economic status other than playing the lotto, and then they bitch how whitey is holding them down, and its not fair, they deserve more.
.....If they are given everything for free, they have no motivation to improve themselves thru education, but they try to improve by more taxes on the "rich"
I DONT CLAIM TO KN0OW ANYTHING ABOUT HUMAN NATURE
NOIR DO I KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CRITICAL THINKING
"The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com
If you want a better term, how about INCONSISTENT SCHZOPRHENIC.
If people who earn money on captial gains, have their earnings sliced and diced , their risk is higher and they invest less. Less money means less businesses being ceated. But hey, insteadof creating a decent paying job for some "poor" people, lets just give them the money. That way they can continue sitting on their FAT asses remaining unproductive, remain ignorant, become diabetics, which drains more from the healthcare, but hey, who cares, they deserve free health care anyways.
They come to think that the only way to improve their lot in life is to play the lotto, take more from the rich, win on American idol, or sell drugs.
(just trying to get the subject back on taxes, and off of you.)
I DONT CLAIM TO KN0OW ANYTHING ABOUT HUMAN NATURE
NOIR DO I KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CRITICAL THINKING
If he's rich and corrupt enough, yes. Or have you not been paying attention during the last two administrations?
:yawn:The idea the Dems are for the little guy is a joke.
Who said anything about the Democrats?
http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...-are-Democrats
That you go from class to political party as though a=b goes to prove you have no idea what you're talking about.
Right.. so that leaves...? Absolutely nothing? Let's disband the police (why socialize it when companies like American Police Force exist?), the military (Xe can handle it), the fire department (history tells us what a smashing success that was)...4.One part of the solution is for the govt to run only things that the private section cant
You'd rather America didn't have any substantial pool f educated professionals to compete in the world market? Methinks you fail to grasp the basic concept of investing in your people.When they start paying for things like college education, its bogus
Focus. We don't like herring.ILLEGAL ALIEN:yawn:6. When taxes go up, private charity donations go down.
If your mythical charities had been enough in the first place, programs like SNAP wouldn't have been needed to begin with. Do you have anything other than tired talking points?What does party have to do with anything? Also, you can stop the whole 'Liberals' thing. I'm not a Liberal and I never have been. My refutations and condemnations of Liberalism are easily found via google. Just ask anyone from USMB.7. If those liberals/Dems
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just type my name into a search engine with each of your scripted lines