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    Quote Originally Posted by beanerboy View Post
    bullshit. everyone puts their earnings into the tax base. and the poor put more of theirs in as a percentage of their meager incomes, than the rich do.
    Not everyone. People collecting welfare,
    Illegal aliens
    Construction workers working off the books
    Waiter and waitresses are notorious for not declaring their tip money
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.T View Post
    The top 5% control 85% of the wealth. How much of the taxes do they pay? .
    citation? You dont really think anyone here is going to take your word for anything, do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvRPgrl View Post
    Not everyone. People collecting welfare,
    Illegal aliens
    Construction workers working off the books
    Waiter and waitresses are notorious for not declaring their tip money
    Beanerboy is all pissed off because we won't acknowledge that those people are putting "sales tax" money into the coffers every time they buy something. Not only does he want them to not have to pay income taxes, he thinks it's unfair for them to pay sales taxes...because proportionately they are paying more of their "disposable" money (whether earned or entitlements) into the coffers than the wealthy people
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvRPgrl View Post
    citation? You dont really think anyone here is going to take your word for anything, do you?
    Even if we take his word ... I've asked him how taking the money from the 5% top wealthiest and giving it to the politicians to control is changing the situation from the fact a minority will still control all the wealth?
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    My mindset is that we do not deserve to keep all the money we earn. As i said, what the taxes are then spent on is a matter for debate, but as regards the OP, its the first sentence that counts.
    So what if they earned it, what right do they have to keep it?

    One of the basic foundations of liberalism. I have always said liberals have what it takes to take what you got


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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Beanerboy is all pissed off because we won't acknowledge that those people are putting "sales tax" money into the coffers every time they buy something. Not only does he want them to not have to pay income taxes, he thinks it's unfair for them to pay sales taxes...because proportionately they are paying more of their "disposable" money (whether earned or entitlements) into the coffers than the wealthy people
    and we all know Virgil admitted keeping his Bush tax cut while bitching how bad it hurt the economy. He would not send HIS tax cut back to DC for the good of the collective

    No, OTHERS must pay higher taxes

    Sounds like other liberals who demand higher taxes yet do not want to pay taxes. Libs like John Kerry, Charlie Rangel, Warren Buffett, and Tim Geithner who are known tax cheats


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    Quote Originally Posted by beanerboy View Post
    her answer was reasonable. the marginal tax rates have always been an element in the political dialog... just as the extent of government funding for the programs she mentioned have also been an element in the political dialog. There ARE things that we, as a society, decide to accomplish collectively. Some of us want more government involvement in certain areas and some want less. That isn't news and it isn't rocket science.

    Yea Virgil, I have posted many examples of how Obama and the Dems have WASTED HUNDERDS OF BILLIONS of dollars (possibly trillions)- yet you support working people giving Obama MORE MONEY to WASTE on polices that have been proven to have bombed

    Meanwhile you keep your tax cuts and flee the country to avoid paying YOUR taxes


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    Quote Originally Posted by beanerboy View Post
    of course they do... and for the wealthy, those taxes are a MUCH smaller portion of THEIR disposable income. THe point is: the common coffers are filled by taxes other than income taxes and the poor contribute to those tax revenues. YOU shut up.
    Spoken by the liberal hypocrite who did not send his Bush tax cut back to the government to help the poor and fled the country to avoid paying taxes

    Why are you not in America paying "your fair share" Virgil?


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    Quote Originally Posted by beanerboy View Post
    to suggest that income taxes exist somewhere in a vacuum is silly. Taxes are money that people cough up from the money that they earn. To suggest that, because some segment of the population does not pay one form of tax, they do not contribute to the common coffers is fucking ridiculous. The fact remains, and my link clearly proves it, that the poor pay taxes, and the taxes they pay are way more regressive than the taxes the rich pay.
    Where have I heard this song and and dance before?

    Oh yea- from John Kerry, Charlie Rangle, Tom Daschel, and Tim Geithner. Virgil the tax evader sounds like the above mentioned tax cheats

    Libs like Virgil do not mind rasing taxes since he has no intention of paying them


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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Can't help it if my ass is smarter than your brain.

    A half-wit gave Virgil a piece of his mind, and he held on to it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Stupid question was stupid.

    Anyone who thinks they do deserve to keep all the money they earn are idiots.
    Wasn't the question how much do you deserve to keep?

    In Germany it's around 30%.

    The question is a tough one to answer because it puts you in a bad position.

    Course Democrats are telling us that we don't deserve whatever we earn.....they just don't want to say it out loud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.T View Post
    Then let's put America to work by stimulating economic growth. Step one: increasing demand
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by J.T View Post
    That's part of it. You have to put together a system that increases the amount of wealth in the hands of the working class. That's why the 50s went so well- the working class had money to buy things.
    and No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Spoken by the liberal hypocrite who did not send his Bush tax cut back to the government to help the poor and fled the country to avoid paying taxes

    Why are you not in America paying "your fair share" Virgil?
    expatriates still pay income tax on their income earned in the US, which in my case is every dime of it. I am paying my fair share, and then some. And I willingly, happily pay every single dime of taxes that Uncle Sam asks me to pay. I have never bitched about tax increases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Where have I heard this song and and dance before?

    Oh yea- from John Kerry, Charlie Rangle, Tom Daschel, and Tim Geithner. Virgil the tax evader sounds like the above mentioned tax cheats

    Libs like Virgil do not mind rasing taxes since he has no intention of paying them
    again... I pay every dime of taxes that Uncle Sam asks me to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post

    Meanwhile you keep your tax cuts and flee the country to avoid paying YOUR taxes
    and again... you're wrong.

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