Of the Bill of Rights?

[ConHog]

I don't know, don't rightly care-- it doesn't matter to me why another gets married. One need only justify it to their spouse last I checked.

I think the question we should be asking is why the state recognizes marriage?

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Exactly right. let CHURCHES recognizes marriages and let the government recognize contracts. The problem with that of course is that isn't good enough for SOME gays who won't be content unless EVERYONE is forced to recognize their "marriage" as equal to any other.

[J.T]

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Exactly right. let CHURCHES recognizes marriages and let the government recognize contracts. The problem with that of course is that isn't good enough for SOME gays who won't be content unless EVERYONE is forced to recognize their "marriage" as equal to any other.

So your entire problem is with equality before the law?

You don't want the state recognizes your marriage to KRB? Then get the state out of marriage entirely- of course, you'll take away everyone else's [legal] marriage in the process, so good luck ever getting any such thing passed.

If we'd done it like Pr-Christian Rome from in the first place, we wouldn't have these problems.

[logroller]

So your entire problem is with equality before the law?

equality . Traditional marriage was anything but.

[Psychoblues]

The government absolutely has and takes the responsibility to tell us how to live.

Bullshit, dimples. Give just an iota of proof of that or are you simply bloviating once again?

Psychoblues

[ConHog]

So your entire problem is with equality before the law?

You don't want the state recognizes your marriage to KRB? Then get the state out of marriage entirely- of course, you'll take away everyone else's [legal] marriage in the process, so good luck ever getting any such thing passed.

If we'd done it like Pr-Christian Rome from in the first place, we wouldn't have these problems.

Why are such a liar? You know damn well that personally I wouldn't care if 20 lesbians marched down to City Hall and got hitched in one big giant lesbian free for all. But the reality is that most people DO care about this issue in one way or the other, so the LOGICAL answer is to give each side part of what they want. Let the queers get married, but a church. no laws against it, but the government doesn't officially recognize the word marriage at all. Some on either side won't be happy, too bad it's called compromise. You should try it once in awhile.

[logroller]

one big giant lesbian free for all.

At the courthouse you say...could you PM me a mapquest link?

[J.T]

So fj is evading again and conhog wastes time to attack me before saying we should do what I've advocated for years.

[logroller]

So fj is evading again and conhog wastes time to attack me before saying we should do what I've advocated for years.

You're such a loser-- neg rep me for posting to a fact. Traditional marriage was all about establishing ownership, ie patriarchal dominance. That is no longer an accepted premise to marriage, but that is the root of traditional puritanical models for marriage. Do a little research into something before you go casting about your boorish mantra. Are you even married? I doubt it. And your constant hate and insults makes me think you weren't raised in an intact loving home either. I am from a family of intact marriages as far back as family history allows, 5 generation in my tree. So don't think for a minute you know more about marriage than I do. Its hard work to married--something I think you have absolutely no clue as to what that entails. gays getting married, I could care less. You however, I'd recommend mental competency tests be done on whomever is dumb enough to marry you. Ignore ON!

[J.T]

Traditional marriage was all about

It doesn't matter what you think traditional marriage was 'all about'. We're not discussing the history of the institution of marriage. We're discussing equality before the law today and the ability of two persons, regardless of sex, to enter into a legally binding union/contract.

Now, do you have anything other than trolling, lame personal attacks, and irrelevant distractions to contribute to the discussion?

[darin]

While we want all members to feel free from constant or beyond the pale attacks, reporting every flame, fight, spat, or anything you don't LIKE just wastes our time. Lets report SERIOUS stuff, okay?

[fj1200]

So fj is evading again...

I'm evading? I haven't posted in this thread for two months. You should really have your unhealthy obsessions looked into. I'm sure there is something free where you're getting your GED.

[LuvRPgrl]

So fj is evading again and conhog wastes time to attack me before saying we should do what I've advocated for years.

Why should I have to pay for someone elses college educ when I cant pay for mine or my kids to get one?

I have a long list of others you avoided cuz you dont like them

[LuvRPgrl]

Ignore ON!

Yea, until and if he starts answering questions without another question, I will put him on ignore also. He isnt even debating at all.
By responding to a question with a question he controls the direction of the discussion and avoids having to answer a question that he doesnt have an answer for.

I gave him many chances to change that, but now Im going to follow CH and ignore him. I suggest FJ do the same, and if CH goes back to having him on ignore, I dont know whom he will have to talk to, so, Im gonna ignore him, I hope everyone else does too, its the only way to control him at all

[ConHog]

While we want all members to feel free from constant or beyond the pale attacks, reporting every flame, fight, spat, or anything you don't LIKE just wastes our time. Lets report SERIOUS stuff, okay?

I reported you for discussing moderator action on the open board.

[ConHog]

Yea, until and if he starts answering questions without another question, I will put him on ignore also. He isnt even debating at all.
By responding to a question with a question he controls the direction of the discussion and avoids having to answer a question that he doesnt have an answer for.

I gave him many chances to change that, but now Im going to follow CH and ignore him. I suggest FJ do the same, and if CH goes back to having him on ignore, I dont know whom he will have to talk to, so, Im gonna ignore him, I hope everyone else does too, its the only way to control him at all

I don't have him on ignore, but I won't be responding to most of inane BS, BUT in his defense, he is just used to doing what nearly EVERYONE at the board we used to post at together does, he just hasn't figured out yet that this board is intellectually superior to that board and hence wants REAL discussion.

I doubt he'll ever get it, because he doesn't want to get it.