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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    And has been pointed out to you ad infinitum, the federal government has shown no inclination at all to cut spending, only raise taxes to cover spending increases. The deficit and debt problem is inarguably a spending problem, NOT a revenue problem.
    most intelligent economist would tell you it is both. I am all for drastic cuts in spending AND I am all for raising the marginal rate for the uber-wealthy to help to further deal with the deficit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanerboy View Post
    most intelligent economist would tell you it is both. I am all for drastic cuts in spending AND I am all for raising the marginal rate for the uber-wealthy to help to further deal with the deficit.
    Let's see the cuts first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Let's see the cuts first!
    let's see BOTH sides agree to them both, for the good of this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Let's see the cuts first!
    Let's also see those who are getting a free ride currently ante up SOMETHING .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Let's also see those who are getting a free ride currently ante up SOMETHING .
    running away still, I see

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    What a stupid analogy. Leave it to a Dem to think that a motorcycle could clear the Grand Canyon.







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    Quote Originally Posted by beanerboy View Post
    oooh... pretty colors. and if I were suggesting that we return to a 92% marginal tax rate as we had during Ike's terms, you might have a point. but... I'm not and you don't. two words for you: bar fine.
    Uh, you really think anybody here is gonna buy that BS excuse.

    Bar fine, I didnt know you have to pay for sex, explains your exodus to Mexico, cheap beer, cheaper women.
    I DONT CLAIM TO KN0OW ANYTHING ABOUT HUMAN NATURE
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    OIR DO I KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CRITICAL THINKING

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanerboy View Post
    bullshit. I would have you believe that wealthy people are more than happy to pay a few percentage points more in income tax if it were to help solve the deficit crisis.
    Then that must mean they dont think a tax increase on them is going to solve the deficit crisis.
    I DONT CLAIM TO KN0OW ANYTHING ABOUT HUMAN NATURE
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    Quote Originally Posted by beanerboy View Post
    oooh... pretty colors. and if I were suggesting that we return to a 92% marginal tax rate as we had during Ike's terms, you might have a point. but... I'm not and you don't. .
    Then you DONT want an increase on the marginal tax rate, please make up your mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvRPgrl View Post
    Then you DONT want an increase on the marginal tax rate, please make up your mind.
    He'll get back to after he receives his emailed instructions from Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvRPgrl View Post
    Uh, you really think anybody here is gonna buy that BS excuse.

    Bar fine, I didnt know you have to pay for sex, explains your exodus to Mexico, cheap beer, cheaper women.
    I didn't meet MY wife through a bar fine, pal....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvRPgrl View Post
    Then you DONT want an increase on the marginal tax rate, please make up your mind.
    Oh... I want and increase.... not to 92%, back when the days when the republican was in office and that was OK with the republicans... back when the days when that marginal tax rate still caused phenomenal job growth. I only want a paltry 3% increase to 39%, and yet, those righties like you, who, most likely don't pay anywhere NEAR that rate, are whining on behalf of the wealthy, who really could give a SHIT whether you whine for them or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    He'll get back to after he receives his emailed instructions from Obama.
    still runnin' away from that wager, I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanerboy View Post
    Oh... I want and increase.... not to 92%, back when the days when the republican was in office and that was OK with the republicans... back when the days when that marginal tax rate still caused phenomenal job growth. I only want a paltry 3% increase to 39%, and yet, those righties like you, who, most likely don't pay anywhere NEAR that rate, are whining on behalf of the wealthy, who really could give a SHIT whether you whine for them or not.
    And likewise we just want a paltry 10% on the 47% who are currently paying NOTHING, yet here you are whining.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanerboy View Post
    I would have moved out of the country four years ago if we hadn't promised our daughter we'd stay until she graduated from college. I am certainly happy with what Obama is TRYING to do.... it's just that I am so fucking sick of strident, wacky, hateful, intolerant righties and how they have blocked nearly everything he's tried to do. I don't have those sorts of neighbors here.
    Virgil, you do suffer from selective memory loss. When Obama took over he had a huge majority in the House and 60 Dems in the Senate

    Dems rammed thru their pork filled "stimulus" and said how it would put people back to work fixing our crumbling roads and bridges. Obama and Pelosi "promised" there would be no pork in the stimulus. They wrote and they passed it

    Obama got his "Cash for Clunkers" passed and even added more money to the program. No last impact on the economy

    Then came Obamacare. Virgil, it was Dems who were blocking it due to the public opposition to the bill. R's could do NOTHING to stop it except go to the voters and tell them what ws in the bill. It became so bad for Reid and Pelosi they had to publicly bribe fellow Dems with pork projects and waivers to Obamacre to secure their votes

    Dems NEVER passed a budget for TWO years Virgil because they did not want to have a paper trail of their spending and deficits. Agains the R's could do nothing

    Before the 2010 midterms Dems saw how pissed off the voters were and said they would not talk about a budget until AFTER the midterm election. Again, Dems ran the show Virgil

    Then came the 2010 midterm election when the Dems lost 62 House seats and 6 Senate seats. Nationwide Dems lost over 600 seats. The voters sent R's to oppose Obama, and stop the insane spending. They were tired of his poilcies Virgil!

    All of a sudden Obama was for NOT raising taxes. During the lame duck session, Obama, Reid, and Pelosi extended the Bush tax cuts leaving rates where they were for the past 10 years. (There was no tax CUT here Virgil)

    Bottom line is Virigl, Obama did get everything he wanted and the results are clear. Dems lost another seat in NY (a seat you bellowed was "safe" BTW) that has not gone to the R's since the 1920's. People have lsot faith in Obama, and they see his policies have failed

    Obama great "accomplishment" - Obamacare continues to see a majority of the voters wanting it repealed. Most polls show about 55% want it repealed.

    All Obama is doing now is appealing to he kook base (that you are a proud member of) in a desperate attempt to try and get his approval numbers up. Obama said he would transform Amercia Virgil - and he is doing just that

    All you can do is make excuses and try to blame others for his failures

    Any questons Virgil?


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