Why Muslims are still mad at America - By Steven Kull

[abso]

You're so full of shit. If a Christian stands up anywhere in the world and says " In the name of Jesus I kill you" and then kills someone, it IS related to Christianity, the same as if a Muslim stands up and says "allalaallalalala Allah says kill" then kills. That's related to Islam.

Your problem is that the ratio is like 1 person who kills in the name of Christianity : one hundred thousand who kill in the name of Islam.

And of course when one person kills in the name of Christianity, thousands of Christians go on record as saying "that isn't what our religion espouses, and we condemn that killer", but when one Muslim kills thousands dance in the streets celebrating it.

Your "religion" should frankly be outlawed in any civilized nation.

and what did that have to do with pirates ???, they were just pirates !!!, did they steal and enslave people to sell them in the name of Islam, or in the name of profit ?


the only ratio you need to think about, is how many peaceful muslims, against how many radical muslims.

[abso]

A woman tries to extinguish a smoldering body in Somalia,
where God's perfect religion inspired a suicide truck bombing that took 100 lives
and left over a hundred others literally burning in agony.
The targeted victims were mostly students -
among the country's best and brightest.



Thanks Islam

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers ..
Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding ..
Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

Quran 3:56 - "As to those who reject faith,
I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter,
nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran 3:151 - "Soon shall We ( Allah via Muslims ) cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers,
for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

you forgot to mention that the woman is muslim, and the students were muslims, and that most suicide bombs only kills muslims like in Iraq.

[jimnyc]

you forgot to mention that the woman is muslim, and the students were muslims, and that most suicide bombs only kills muslims like in Iraq.

And the women getting abused non-stop are from muslims. But as long as the beatings and killings are against other muslims that makes it ok?

The thread should be titled "Why the world is still mad at Islam" - and the easy answer is that there are TONS AND TONS AND TONS of savages in islam that are committing barbaric acts - but a muslim condemning these actions is rarely, if ever, found. It's always "That's not my country" - "they don't represent islam" - "thats not a true muslim" - but never condemnation of them or their actions unless you are pinned in a corner.

Face it, islam as a whole is about 300-500 years behind the rest of the world. Daily terror attacks are frowned upon elsewhere. Daily abuse of women is frowned upon elsewhere.

<p align="center"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/">
<img src="http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/TROP.jpg" border="0" alt="Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11"></a></p>

[Gaffer]

When did islam become a threat to the US? In the 1920's with the formation of the muslim brotherhood. It became more of a threat with it's alliance with the nazi's, who's programs it still adheres too. They are the new nazis. Their influence is world wide and rarely challenged by any others within the religion. The goal of the MB is a middle east caliphate, which they intend to expand after consolidating everything. Conquest is mandated in the koran. If you don't realize that then you are either naive or a liar. If you have strong beliefs in your religion and your imam tells you to kill infidels or you will be eternally punished can you say that you would ignore his order? Would you seek a second opinion?

I understand that your here to proselytize. You want to paint islam in a rosy picture. But it doesn't work here. The history, past and present, of islam is one of barbary, murder and evil doings on a grand scale. If your not afraid of facts I suggest reading Robert Spencer and Pamella Gellar books on islam. I'm sure you would not fully agree with them but you might get some insight into the religion that you never had before. Their books may even be banned in Egypt or soon will be.

Religion of every kind is a means of controlling the population through, not only physical threats, but also the threat of eternal damnation. And islam is one of the biggest abusers of that controlling policy.

[ConHog]

And the women getting abused non-stop are from muslims. But as long as the beatings and killings are against other muslims that makes it ok?

The thread should be titled "Why the world is still mad at Islam" - and the easy answer is that there are TONS AND TONS AND TONS of savages in islam that are committing barbaric acts - but a muslim condemning these actions is rarely, if ever, found. It's always "That's not my country" - "they don't represent islam" - "thats not a true muslim" - but never condemnation of them or their actions unless you are pinned in a corner.

Face it, islam as a whole is about 300-500 years behind the rest of the world. Daily terror attacks are frowned upon elsewhere. Daily abuse of women is frowned upon elsewhere.

<p align="center"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/">
<img src="http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/TROP.jpg" border="0" alt="Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11"></a></p>

And when they DO condemn them it is almost always with a caveat. never just a straight out, hey that shit wasn't right. NEVER.

[dadman]

Gaffer .. you have yourself a WONDERFUL day

[dadman]

you forgot to mention that the woman is muslim,
and the students were muslims,
and that most suicide bombs only kills muslims like in Iraq . . . . .

I guess it really dosen't matter . . .
Muslims will kill anyone who they see as an enemy or who might get in their way . . .
Is abso trying to talk me / we / us into becoming a Muslim ????? . . .
Like I've said before .. abso would be better off speaking arabic to his Jihadic "brethren" about their "wrong ideas"

I'll sitck with Jesus . . . the Truth the way the life ..
the FINAL prophet and full expression of the Father . . .
Mohammad = the founder of a Satanic Death Cult . . . world domination my azz
.. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pa...s-Muhammad.htm .. care to compare ??

[jimnyc]

.. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pa...s-Muhammad.htm .. care to compare ??

Oh, I love that, going to try and place it here for abso to read... this way we can all read his denials...

Christianity and Islam: A Side by Side Comparison* * It is not the purpose of this site to promote any particular religion, including Christianity. However, we do enjoy refuting nonsense, such as the claim that Muhammad and Jesus preached a morally equivalent message, or that all religion is the same.

"Allah:" "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them." (Qur'an 8:12) Muhammad: "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." (Ibn Ishaq 992) Jesus: "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 5:14) Each year, thousands of Christian homes and churches are torched or bombed by Muslim mobs, and hundreds of Christians, including dozens of priests, pastors, nuns and other church workers are murdered at the hands of Islamic extremists. The so-called justification varies, from charges of apostasy or evangelism, to purported "blasphemy" or "insulting" Islam. Innocent people have even been hacked to death by devout Muslims over cartoons. Yet, there is little if any violent retaliation from religious Christians to the discrimination, kidnapping, rape, torture, mutilation and murder that is routinely reported from nations with Muslim majorities. Neither is there is any significant deadly terrorism in the name of Jesus, as there is in the stated cause of Allah each and every day. Muslim clerics in the West do not fear for their safety as do their Christian counterparts. The "Christian world" and the Islamic world contrast sharply in other ways as well, from the disparate condition of human rights and civil liberties to economic status. An astonishing 70% of the world's refugees are Muslims - usually seeking to live in Christian-based countries. While Western societies take seriously "scandals" such as Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo (where no one has actually been killed), Muslims routinely turn a blind eye to their own horrible atrocities, even those committed explicitly in the name of Allah. The Muslim world has yet to offer a single apology for the tens of millions of lives consumed by centuries of relentless Jihad and slavery. These sharp differences are almost certainly rooted in the underlying religions, which begin with the disparate teachings of Jesus and Muhammad...

Differences Between Muhammad and Jesus
Muhammad...	Jesus...
Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam. (Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)	Said God loves everyone. (John 3:16)
"I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33)	"He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." (Matthew 26:52)
Stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206)	"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." (John 8:7)
Permitted stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)	"Thou shalt not steal." (Matthew 19:18)
Permitted lying. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)	"Thou shalt not bear false witness." (Matthew 19:18)
Owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901)	Neither owned nor traded slaves.
Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390)	Beheaded no one.
Murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)	Preached forgiveness. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)
"If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him" (Qur'an 2:194)	"If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39)
Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645)	"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of God" (Matthew 5:9)
Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)	Was celibate.
Slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)	Did not have sex with children.
Ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)	Never harmed a woman.
"O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Qur'an 3:110)	"Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." (Matthew 5:5)
Ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq )	Ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any approval of war or violence.
Killed captives taken in battle. (Ibn Ishaq 451)	Never took captives. Never killed anyone.
Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women. (Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)	Never encouraged rape. Never enslaved women.
Demanded captured slaves and a fifth of all other loot taken in war. (Qur'an 8:41)	"The Son of Man came not to be served, but to serve." (Matthew 20:28)
Was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)	Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.
"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah" (Qur'an 8:39)	"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" (Matthew 5:44)
Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man (al-Tabari 1440)	Healed a blind man (Mark 8:28)
Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743)	Washed his disciples feet. (John 13:5)
What are the Greatest Commandments? "Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause" (Muslim 1:149)	What are the Greatest Commandments? "Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 22:34-40)
Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship (Qur'an 4:102)	Chastised anyone attempting to defend him with force. (John 18:10-12)
Died fat and wealthy from what was taken from others in war or demanded from others in tribute.	Demanded nothing for himself. Died without possessions.
Advocated crucifying others. (Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)	Was crucified himself.
According to his followers: Had others give their lives for him. (Sahih Muslim 4413)	According to his followers: Gave his life for others. (John 18:11 and elsewhere)

Differences Between Early Muslims and Early Christians
Muhammad's Companions...	Jesus' Disciples...
Lived as warriors.	Lived like harmless hippies.
Emphasis on Jihad (the way of Muhammad) "He who fights that Allah's word should be superior fights in Allah's cause" (Bukhari 53:355)	Emphasis on Evangelism (the way of Jesus) "Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature" (Matthew 15:16)
Attacked and conquered the populations in parts of 28 modern countries in just the first three decades following Muhammad's death.	Did not resort to violence of any sort, despite tremendous persecution.
Declared holy war on the people of five major world religions in just the first 100 years following Muhammad's death.	Went centuries without declaring 'holy war'.
Plundered and lived off the wealth of others.	Gave away their possessions to those in need. (Acts 2:44-45)
Captured and enslaved non-Muslim people.	Considered themselves to be slaves of others.
"Martyred" in battle.	Martyred from persecution.
Waged war to keep members from leaving the religion. Put apostates to death.	No record of aggression toward apostates.
Muhammad's own family members quickly fell into armed warfare against each other.	Jesus' disciples never resorted to violence against one another (or anyone else).
First 240 Years: 11 of the first 32 caliphs were murdered by fellow Muslims.	First 240 Years: 14 of the first 25 popes were martyred by pagans (none by fellow Christians).
Caliphs were polygamous and maintained harems of hundreds of captured sex slaves.	Popes were expected to be celibate.
Islamic mosques sustained by taxes forced from subjugated non-Muslims (the jizya).	Christian churches sustained by voluntary tithes from Christians.

Differences Between Islamic Teaching and Christianity
The Qur'an	The Bible
External sources (the Hadith and Sira) necessary for translating the Qur'an	Historical context contained within the text of the Bible
Must know Arabic in order to "fully understand" the Qur'an (according to Muslim apologists)	Universal. Can be translated into other languages without excessive commentary.
Chronological progression of the Quran is from peace to violence.	Chronological progression of the Bible is from violence to peace.
The words 'torture' and 'punishment' appear six times more often than in the New Testament.	The word 'love' appears five times more often in the New Testament than in the Qur'an,
Contains not a single original moral value.	The 'Sermon on the Mount' and others.
Suffering is an excuse for violent revenge and establishment of Islam by force"And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." (Qur'an 2:191)	Suffering builds character"We also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope" (Romans 5:4)
Emphasis on this World"And Allah has made you heirs to their land and their dwellings and their property" (Qur'an 33:27)	Emphasis on the Next"Mine is not a kingdom of this world" (John 18:36, see also Luke 14:33)
Privilege "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." (Qur'an 33:27)	Servitude "If anyone wants to be first, he must make himself last of all and servant of all." (Mark 9:35)
Martyrs as Killers "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain" (Qur'an 9:111)	Martyrs as Martyrs "As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter" (Romans 8:36)
Killing Apostates "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them" (Qur'an 4:89, also Bukhari 52:260, 83:37...)	Letting God Judge Apostates "For we know Him that has said, 'Vengeance belongs unto me, I will recompense,' says the Lord. And again, 'The Lord shall judge his people'" (Hebrews 10:25-30)
Punishment"Let not compassion move you from carrying out God's law..." (Qur'an 24:2)	Mercy"Love is patient. Love is kind... It keeps no record of wrongs" (1 Corinthians 13:4-5)
Charity and Non-BelieversMercy toward fellow Muslims - ruthlessness toward unbelievers. Muslims are warned not to befriend those outside the faith. They must even ensure that their charity tithe (zakat) does not go toward the needy of other religions. (Qur'an 48:29, 3:28, Sharia)	Charity and Non-BelieversChristians are specifically told that even those who hate them are entitled to kindness and charity. They should be loved and cared for as surely as any fellow believer. (Mark 10:25-37)
The Qur'an does not command husbands to love their wives, but it does give men permission to beat disobedient women. (Qur'an 4:34, Sahih Muslim 2127)	"Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them." (No permission to beat women) (Colossians 3:19)
Explicitly allows Muslim men to rape their female slaves, even those already married. (Qur'an 4:24, 70:29-30, 23:5-6...)	Tells masters and slaves to serve each other as if serving God. (Ephesians 6:7-9)
Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those who are with him are ruthless to the unbelievers" (Qur'an 48:29)	"Do good to them that hate you" (Luke 6:27)
Allah wills those that stray and are lost (Qur'an 16:93)	God wants all people saved (1 Timothy 2:4)
Warns Against Questioning Faith. (Qur'an 5:101-102)	Welcomes Intellectual Challenge. (1 Peter 3:15)
Violence as Virtue"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." (Qur'an 2:216)	Violence as Sin"Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: 'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' says the Lord. On the contrary: 'If your enemy is hungry, feed him... '" (Romans 12:19-20)
Hell for unbelief. Good deeds count for naught (Qur'an 18:102-107)	Hell for bad deeds and the failure to do what is right (Romans 2:6-8, Matthew 16:27, Matthew 25:41-45)
Judging"Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them..." (Qur'an 9:73)	Judge Not"For when you pass judgment on another person, you condemn yourself..." (Romans 2:1)
Taking wealth from others"Allah promiseth you much booty that ye will capture..." (Qur'an 48:20)	Working for and giving wealth to others"The thief must no longer steal but must work hard and do what is good with his own hands, so that he might have something to give to the needy." (Ephesians 4:28)
Calls down Allah's curse on Christians and those of other religions. (Qur'an 9:30)	Calls down God's blessing on those who curse Christians. (Matthew 5:44)
Arrogance "Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind" (Qur'an 3:110)	Humility"Inasmuch as ye did to one of the least of these, ye did it to me." (Matthew 25:34-40)
"O you who believe! do not take My enemy and your enemy for friends: Would you offer them love while they deny what has come to you of the truth? (Qur'an 60:1)	"Love your enemies..." (Luke 6:27)

Differences Between the Islamic and Christian-Based Worlds
Muslim Legacy	Christian Legacy
Countries that Muslims want to escape from.	Countries that Muslims want to escape to.
Madrassahs that indoctrinate Muslim children with bigotry and terror.	Mission schools that teach reading and writing to Christians and Muslims alike.
Suicide bombings for Allah	No suicide bombings for Jesus
International terror organizations.	International charities.
No formal charities for non-Muslims.	Leading provider of disaster relief to Muslims.
Murder of aid workers.	Supply of aid workers.
Christians in jail for apostasy or blasphemy.	Religious freedom.
Modern-day slavery in the name of Islam.	Abolition in the name of Christianity.
Muslim clerics who engage in or condone terrorism.	Christian clerics murdered each year by terror groups rife with Muslim clerics.
Daily religious violence against Hindus.	None.
Daily religious violence against Jews.	None.
Daily religious violence against Buddhists.	None.
Daily religious violence against Muslims.	None.
Religion	Technology & Medicine
Censorship	Freedom of speech
Intolerance for criticism of Islam.	Tolerance for religious dissent.
Restricting other religions from preaching faith.	Allowing all religions the same right to evangelize.
Conversions allowed to Islam only.	Freedom of conscience.
Converts to Christianity beheaded.	No dead converts to Islam.
Most famous Muslim: Osama bin Laden.	Most famous Christian: The Pope.

Whether true or not, everything that secular critics say they don't like about Christianity, from women's issues to slavery, is not only a tangible part of Islam, but usually magnified.While the Catholic church is demonized for not allowing female priests, the fundamentalists of Islam force women into burqas and blow up schools that educate girls. Even activists known for championing women's rights in the Muslim world still rationalize keeping captured women as sex slaves, since it is explicitly permitted in the Qur'an. And, while Christians might object to extra-marital sex, only Islamic purists plant consenting adults in the ground and stone them to death. Theocracy (in the form of Sharia) really is the the explicit goal of Islamic teaching, whereas Christianity leaves room for the separation of religion and government (Mark 12:17, John 18:36). Terrorism really is an expression of devotion to Allah (here's an example) - and not just criminal activity or warfare by disinterested parties with a nominal religious identification (ie. "born a Catholic"). If threatening people with eternal damnation is considered distasteful, then Christianity has far less to be ashamed of than Islam, which no only mentions the terrible fate awaiting unbelievers on nearly every other page, but also includes vivid descriptions of torture at the hands of a sociopath known as Allah. The two religions contrast sharply even in their positive aspects. The morality of the Qur'an is amateurish and frustratingly obscure for those who try to compare it to what is contained in the Bible. Most of Islam's holiest book is devoted toward distinguishing and heaping abuse on unbelievers. There are no verses that promote universal love and brotherhood. The few verses that are sometimes held up as examples of tolerance and peace generally require separation from textual and historical context. The difference between Christianity and Islam starts at the top: Muslims are told that Muhammad - a slave-owner, sexual glutton, thief and killer - is the most "beautiful pattern of conduct" and "example" for mankind to follow (Qur'an 33:21), as well as the "exalted standard of character" (Qur'an 68:4). Christians are told to emulate Jesus - a pacifist and servant - and "walk, even as he walked" (1 John 2:6). Unlike Muhammad, who ordered military assaults against Christians, for example, Jesus told his followers not to resort to violence and to pray for one's enemies. These two men could hardly have been more different in how they lived or in what they taught others. Why should we not then expect starkly contrasting legacies - from the conduct of their closest companions to the livability of modern-day countries influenced by the predominance of one founder's teachings over the other? As Wafa Sultan (who describes herself as a Muslim who does not adhere to Islam) puts it: "The problem with Christians is they aren't as good as Jesus. But thank God most Muslims are better than Muhammad."

To no one's surprise, the 24-inch "beheading" knife with which this
devout Muslim is posing is inscribed with a verse from the "Holy" Qur'an.

[abso]

And the women getting abused non-stop are from muslims. But as long as the beatings and killings are against other muslims that makes it ok?

The thread should be titled "Why the world is still mad at Islam" - and the easy answer is that there are TONS AND TONS AND TONS of savages in islam that are committing barbaric acts - but a muslim condemning these actions is rarely, if ever, found. It's always "That's not my country" - "they don't represent islam" - "thats not a true muslim" - but never condemnation of them or their actions unless you are pinned in a corner.

Face it, islam as a whole is about 300-500 years behind the rest of the world. Daily terror attacks are frowned upon elsewhere. Daily abuse of women is frowned upon elsewhere.

its you who want a certain kind of condemenation that satisfies you, which is the condemenation of Islam itself, not its people, you just want to find them an excuse for being bad people, so if they were christians, they wouldnt have to be that bad, right ???

well, i am a muslim, and i am not that bad, and i condemn the PEOPLE who kill, rape, abuse, still, lie, or do whatever sin they may do, but for me, I CONDEMN the people, not their religion or their belief system, because for me to condemn a religion, that would mean that i condemn many other innocent people who also follow that religion.

i DO condemn, but just not in your twisted way, you need people to HATE islam itself, not just the bad muslims.

[abso]

you forgot to mention that the woman is muslim,
and the students were muslims,
and that most suicide bombs only kills muslims like in Iraq . . . . .

I guess it really dosen't matter . . .
Muslims will kill anyone who they see as an enemy or who might get in their way . . .
Is abso trying to talk me / we / us into becoming a Muslim ????? . . .
Like I've said before .. abso would be better off speaking arabic to his Jihadic "brethren" about their "wrong ideas"

I'll sitck with Jesus . . . the Truth the way the life ..
the FINAL prophet and full expression of the Father . . .
Mohammad = the founder of a Satanic Death Cult . . . world domination my azz
.. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pa...s-Muhammad.htm .. care to compare ??

talk you into becoming muslims !!!!, where did you get that idea from, i am not a preacher, i am just a regular university student, thats all.

[Kathianne]

talk you into becoming muslims !!!!, where did you get that idea from, i am not a preacher, i am just a regular university student, thats all.

and you ignored how many posts regarding less than peaceful that you understood?

[jimnyc]

its you who want a certain kind of condemenation that satisfies you, which is the condemenation of Islam itself, not its people, you just want to find them an excuse for being bad people, so if they were christians, they wouldnt have to be that bad, right ???

well, i am a muslim, and i am not that bad, and i condemn the PEOPLE who kill, rape, abuse, still, lie, or do whatever sin they may do, but for me, I CONDEMN the people, not their religion or their belief system, because for me to condemn a religion, that would mean that i condemn many other innocent people who also follow that religion.

i DO condemn, but just not in your twisted way, you need people to HATE islam itself, not just the bad muslims.

Nice try, but that's total bullshit. I have no twisted way. I condemn the TONS AND TONS who commit terror attacks or those who abuse women. I'm not condemning peaceful muslims and you know it, so YOU stop trying to twist things rather than acknowledge the abuse in your world.

There have been THOUSANDS of terror attacks since 9/11. Surely you can find for us MANY newspapers and media agencies that immediately spoke out to their countries about how this was disgusting and the type of activity that they seek to stop?

Places like, lets say, EGYPT, have a HUGE amount of abuse towards their women. PLEASE post the leaders, newspapers and main media agencies that continually speak out about this filthy behavior and demanding that the country get a grip on it and stop the abuse of women? This should be easy to show us, there should be MANY instances of SO MANY leaders of states and then local communities who are speaking out daily to protect their citizens?

Real easy - major leaders of states, major leaders of individual communities - speaking out often to combat the daily terror attacks and the rampant abuse of women.

[jimnyc]

We all know you won't be able to post jack shit other than some fucking blog post which is likely a woman behind it anyway. We're all very well informed here and listen to our leaders as well as that of foreign leaders. We follow politics throughout the world. We are all very sensitive about terrorism and follow that intensively throughout the world. We KNOW that major islamic shitheads are not out there daily trying to stamp out terrorism. This is a fact, or the entire world would know about it. We KNOW that major islamic shitheads are not out there daily trying to stamp out the rampant abuse of women, or the entire world would know about it.

The silence by the islamic leaders of state and local communities - speaks MORE than anything they can say when the bulbs are flashing. The leaders don't give a flying fuck about these issues, and some probably contribute to it, even if blindly.

** If any fuckfaces come in here with a soft spot for abso -I'm condemning the terror attacks, abuse of women & the leaders who don't do jack shit to stop it. I'm not condemning abso as an individual.

*** If any fuckfaces try and compare Catholics/Christians or other religions to Islam - please compare using TODAYS civilized societies. And I say civilized societies very lightly when speaking of so many muslim countries/communities.

[dadman]

Freakn Shitheads . . . dang it !!! now ya got me sayin it

[ConHog]

its you who want a certain kind of condemenation that satisfies you, which is the condemenation of Islam itself, not its people, you just want to find them an excuse for being bad people, so if they were christians, they wouldnt have to be that bad, right ???

well, i am a muslim, and i am not that bad, and i condemn the PEOPLE who kill, rape, abuse, still, lie, or do whatever sin they may do, but for me, I CONDEMN the people, not their religion or their belief system, because for me to condemn a religion, that would mean that i condemn many other innocent people who also follow that religion.

i DO condemn, but just not in your twisted way, you need people to HATE islam itself, not just the bad muslims.

Shut up liar. Ten million muslims can't be wrong, there is SOMETHING about Islam that leads these people to be LUNATICS. Condemn THAT you coward.