JP Cusick and Child Support

[Kathianne]

I realize both that you've been calling him out and that I have been more vulgar than usual in this thread. I have apologized for my own behavior; but fuck that asshole, this is a topic that just sets me off to no end.

As for his judging the entire board off my posts. I think that is so much BS. He's just mad because he didn't find a receptive audience for his anti child support rhetoric. Bet he wouldn't' mind the language if we were all talking about "yeah fuck the CSE, them assholes, I wouldn't pay my child support either" or something similar.

From what I can tell, he's never found a receptive audience to his 'ideas.'

[Abbey Marie]

Big Picture: JP is not living a happy life, focusing his energy on what he is mad about. It's not good to live in negative feelings all the time.

JP's apparent compassion for animals and anti-abortion beliefs are big redeeming qualities, and make me think he must have a good side. While I cannot support him, I also refrain from condemning him. Anyone who doesn't like that, tough.

Just had to get that out there. And now, that is more than enough time spent I've on the guy, lol.

[ConHog]

Big Picture: JP is not living a happy life, focusing his energy on what he is mad about. It's not good to live in negative feelings all the time.

JP's apparent compassion for animals and anti-abortion beliefs are big redeeming qualities, and make me think he must have a good side. While I cannot support him, I also refrain from condemning him. Anyone who doesn't like that, tough.

Just had to get that out there. And now, that is more than enough time spent I've on the guy, lol.

I'd like to spend about an hour or so on the guy, but that's my issue.

[LuvRPgrl]

But apparently San Diego California will go after that ass. Odd that they are the one jurisdiction in America that totally ignores state law in regards to child support enforcement , well or someone is full of shit.

people really do say the stupidest things. If you are referring to me, I live in SD, but the cases Ive spoken ABOUT dont involve sd at all,

[LuvRPgrl]

I realize both that you've been calling him out and that I have been more vulgar than usual in this thread. I have apologized for my own behavior; but fuck that asshole, this is a topic that just sets me off to no end.

. you apologized then carry on

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He's just mad because he didn't find a receptive audience for his anti child support rhetoric. Bet he wouldn't' mind the language if we were all talking about "yeah fuck the CSE, them assholes, I wouldn't pay my child support either" or something similar.

first you spoke for the rest of the board, now you are speaking for JP, maybe we should all just sit back and let you carry on the entire conversation throughout the entire thread.

[Gunny]

But apparently San Diego California will go after that ass. Odd that they are the one jurisdiction in America that totally ignores state law in regards to child support enforcement , well or someone is full of shit.

Doesn't have to be either. The county can do as it pleases so long as it doesn't violate state and/or Federal law. A friend of mine when I was stationed at MCRD had child support issues and it was handled by the county. I wil have to check, but if IIRC, my daughter's divorce was also handled in Nueces County court in TX. The actual order is from the court that makes the ruling. In this case, county court.

Conversely, when I was divorced in Virginia, it was state court. I think it just depends on the state.

[ConHog]

Doesn't have to be either. The county can do as it pleases so long as it doesn't violate state and/or Federal law. A friend of mine when I was stationed at MCRD had child support issues and it was handled by the county. I wil have to check, but if IIRC, my daughter's divorce was also handled in Nueces County court in TX. The actual order is from the court that makes the ruling. In this case, county court.

Conversely, when I was divorced in Virginia, it was state court. I think it just depends on the state.

It doesn't matter what court issues the decree. collections are handled by each state's CSE agency. As I said I was divorced in 1992. My local county issued the divorce and the child support order, for the first 4 years the county DID handle child support , none was ever collected then either, then the state joined other states and went to a CSE agency and then the counties had nothing to do with child support enforcement , other than the sherrif served warrants, makes arrests etc etc. when needed.

[Gunny]

It doesn't matter what court issues the decree. collections are handled by each state's CSE agency. As I said I was divorced in 1992. My local county issued the divorce and the child support order, for the first 4 years the county DID handle child support , none was ever collected then either, then the state joined other states and went to a CSE agency and then the counties had nothing to do with child support enforcement , other than the sherrif served warrants, makes arrests etc etc. when needed.

And I'm not arguing how you do it in Arkansas. My entire point is that it doesn't mean that's how other states handle it. I'm not too sure what Federal law you're citing, but marriage and divorce are handled by the individual states. I vaguely recall the Feds getting involved only insofar as making it possible to pursue deadbeat dads across state lines, but I don't think it goes much further than that. Matter of fact, IIRC, the big issue was some states would cooperate with each other while others would not, or just did not.

[ConHog]

And I'm not arguing how you do it in Arkansas. My entire point is that it doesn't mean that's how other states handle it. I'm not too sure what Federal law you're citing, but marriage and divorce are handled by the individual states. I vaguely recall the Feds getting involved only insofar as making it possible to pursue deadbeat dads across state lines, but I don't think it goes much further than that. Matter of fact, IIRC, the big issue was some states would cooperate with each other while others would not, or just did not.

And again, you are going by old case law. If you look at how things are done now. There IS a federal child support enforcement agency, and all states MUST work through them. All but Oklahoma and Rhode Island have actual Child Support Enforcement Agencies. There is no not cooperating with other states. It doesn't happen, by federal law, they MUST cooperate. That is what the CSEs are there for. So you don't have to chase your daughter's sperm donor down to bumfuck arkansas, you merely call the texas child support enforcement agency and they track the sumbitch down via IRS work history (made available via the federal government's involvement because prior to this a JP could just skip across state lines and be gone) then THEY contact the appropriate state's CSE who handles collections.

If it didn't work that way, you KNOW dead beats would soon discover which states didn't cooperate with which states and move there. But it does work that way, so there is no hiding across state lines. Now some states move faster than others, but in every case it is the state doing the collecting, not the local court houses. That is absolutely SOP in EVERY jurisdiction.

[LuvRPgrl]

and again, you are going by old case law. If you look at how things are done now. There is a federal child support enforcement agency, and all states must work through them. All but oklahoma and rhode island have actual child support enforcement agencies. There is no not cooperating with other states. It doesn't happen, by federal law, they must cooperate. That is what the cses are there for. So you don't have to chase your daughter's sperm donor down to bumfuck arkansas, you merely call the texas child support enforcement agency and they track the sumbitch down via irs work history (made available via the federal government's involvement because prior to this a jp could just skip across state lines and be gone) then they contact the appropriate state's cse who handles collections.

If it didn't work that way, you know dead beats would soon discover which states didn't cooperate with which states and move there. But it does work that way, so there is no hiding across state lines. Now some states move faster than others, but in every case it is the state doing the collecting, not the local court houses. That is absolutely sop in every jurisdiction.

absolute total bullshit.

[red states rule]

I find it odd and unpleasant that posters here use so much dirty language.

Most forums do not allow such profanities, and it is not allowed on my forum either.

It seems to me that you appear to think that you are communicating some kind of message just by spewing out some trashy words, but I say you are perverting the message if there really is any message underneath of the trash talk.

The dirty words really just show that the poster is immature and lacking sophistication.

Those ugly posting also demonstrates that this forum is very low class.

I see you have ignored my posts highlighting what you wrote on other forums which tells me you do not have the courage of your convictions

So be it

Since you are running for elected office in MD what is your position on the Dems wanting to raise the state gax tax by 15 cents/gal and in state tuition for illegals?

This has set off alot of people and shows Dems really do not care about the working folks who are lucky enough to still have a job

[Gunny]

And again, you are going by old case law. If you look at how things are done now. There IS a federal child support enforcement agency, and all states MUST work through them. All but Oklahoma and Rhode Island have actual Child Support Enforcement Agencies. There is no not cooperating with other states. It doesn't happen, by federal law, they MUST cooperate. That is what the CSEs are there for. So you don't have to chase your daughter's sperm donor down to bumfuck arkansas, you merely call the texas child support enforcement agency and they track the sumbitch down via IRS work history (made available via the federal government's involvement because prior to this a JP could just skip across state lines and be gone) then THEY contact the appropriate state's CSE who handles collections.

If it didn't work that way, you KNOW dead beats would soon discover which states didn't cooperate with which states and move there. But it does work that way, so there is no hiding across state lines. Now some states move faster than others, but in every case it is the state doing the collecting, not the local court houses. That is absolutely SOP in EVERY jurisdiction.

I'll just have to agree to disagree. Maybe it's supposed to work that way. My oldest daughter would beg to differ. Bonehead's $9K in arrears and counting.

I have also see it in action with others ... as long as the person paying support makes ANY effort, the state won't go after the person. So the payer shells out $50. when $300 is due, and he's off the hook. Sure, they'll add it to the total the payer will eventually have to pay allegedly, but that doesn't do squat for the child right now.

[ConHog]

I'll just have to agree to disagree. Maybe it's supposed to work that way. My oldest daughter would beg to differ. Bonehead's $9K in arrears and counting.

I have also see it in action with others ... as long as the person paying support makes ANY effort, the state won't go after the person. So the payer shells out $50. when $300 is due, and he's off the hook. Sure, they'll add it to the total the payer will eventually have to pay allegedly, but that doesn't do squat for the child right now.

Oh, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying that the states move fast or at all. I'm simply describing how the mechanics of the system work.

In fact I said the very same thing you just said earlier when someone was claiming states automatically go after men who get behind in child support, no they do not. And in fact they simply aren't prosecuting at all in Arkansas at the moment as long as the non custodial effort is making SOME effort to pay; no matter how small that effort is.

[JP Cusick]

I see you have ignored my posts highlighting what you wrote on other forums which tells me you do not have the courage of your convictions

I simply can not continue on this forum as I simply can not be associated with the pornography and filth on this forum.

Even if I were not a candidate for political office then I would still be personally ashamed of participating along with such severe profanity going on so I have to remove myself.

This is the first time for me that I ever experienced such a scenario so this solution is the best response to it that I can figure out to exit here and still stand my ground as to the subject given, as I am not leaving the thread subject and just leaving the dirty talk.

I have quoted your postings onto my own forum and it is linked here = "red states rule".

So anyone can respond or reply or whatever one wants to do on that forum, as anyone can post there either anonymously without registering or by registering then anyone can get email notifications and more.

Of course on that smaller forum people can talk about most anything but any dirty words or pornographic insinuations will be (censored).

Peace.

[fj1200]

Bummer.