"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Hundreds of thousands of people manage to fly every year without encountering ANY problems with the TSA, so this acting like they just can't do anything right is silly. Nothing they do is going to prevent EVERY bad encounter from happening.
Now I notice YOU refuse to admit that yes in fact there are people who go out of there way to provoke the TSA.
I read your posts. I was still speaking about the complaint from the OP. I'm sure there are many valid complaints out there, and quite possibly the subsequent complaints since the OP. I was strictly stating that the woman in the 1st post, her story doesn't seem to add up, and that TSA agents themselves shouldn't automatically considered guilty when complaints are made, just because they are employed by the TSA. Each case is different. For 3 women complaining, there are thousands at the same time having no issues. That doesn't excuse other complaints, but shows that not all TSA agents are doing anything inappropriate.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
I think some rape victims would take offense to the comparison. I think some people are having their civil liberties violated, and I hope they succeed in any and all lawsuits that arise out of it. And maybe there are a handful of cases that actually rise to the level of assault, or a lesser sex offense, but certainly not rape.
You quoted my post, and that's what I quote from you. As to the bold... Then why would you reply to me? Why the attitude about a reply I made that is actually quite mild?
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
I didn't call them guilty, I just don't think it's far fetched.
When more facts come out we could be a bit more sure of what went on.
What do you think we'll get in the way of details from the TSA? Can the person sue and and a real investigation done?
As far as being guilty for being the TSA ... what..
I've always been agaist the TSA and all of the BS faux security, taking off shoes, no liquids, and pedophilia, geriatriphilla general purpose feel-ya.
TSA is not just a waste, it's another stripe against freedoms in the U.S..
here's a couple of former Air Marshalls and FAA red team security people talking about the lack of real security to this day. TSA is security theater and it is a crime that it still exist, every strip searched offense is just adding insult to injury.
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It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God. 1 Peter 2:16
Actually the rape analogy works pretty well. These folks will likely be traumatized enough to never fly again, perhaps even find it hard to leave their homes again. Likely blaming themselves for putting themselves in the position of being there. Wrong place, wrong time, wrong employees.
Blaming the victim doesn't work in raper or this instance either.
As for CH saying there are 'some people' that are baiting or trying to entrap the TSA, that is likely. What isn't are people with real physical issues and in their 70's-90's.
What if it had been one of your moms? You'd still feel that it was her fault?
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Speaking solely about the OP...
You can't really say "blaming the victim" as you don't really know whether or not she is a victim, unless you solely listen to her complaint and ignore the TSA's words and the videotape. If she was "abused" in any way, heads should roll. The evidence thus far doesn't point to that being the case, and her own words don't add up.
And again, actual rape victims would probably take offense to comparing their violent abuses to that of someone who had some sort of strip search. While certainly not pleasant to go through, it's a far cry from rape.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
True or not. Privatize the TSA!
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
No argument here. I think the majority of the problems are because of the administration and guidelines, and not the screeners who take the majority of the heat. Get the government out of the entire thing and let the carriers hire independent security agencies.
Now, supposing this happens, or something close to that - what will be next if a private company performs "similar" searches to protect their employer/airlines?
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock