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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Of course they are cogs in the machine, and the fact that they don't get to run security the way they want proves it. IF they had their druthers, they would profile, but those decisions are made outside the TSA and they are told what to do.

    It's how the alphabet agencies operate. I seen it all the time with the DEA guys I worked with. They would KNOW that something would work in the field and some politician in a suit would decide differently and that was that. Rocking the boat meant losing your job.And we all know that politicians don't make decisions based off of common sense.
    And you support that, right? It's what you've been posting in favor of since you came here years, make that months ago. Really, has it only been 5 months? Seems way longer. Honesty should compel you to agree that what the government wants from TSA is good for USA. That has been your position from the beginning, middle, and end.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    How do you know it's not my argument? The only thing I've argued is that it is my opinion that the TSA should do the security at airports and that the searches are constitutional. I've never given ANY suggestion as to WHY I think the TSA should be the governjment agency doing the searches , until now that is.

    My questioon to you is this, if you feel it's a waste of money, and/or unconstitutional for the TSA to be doing the searches, why would you be okay with local law enforcement doing it? Don't agree with incorporation?
    Honestly, your argument is hard to follow because you said that Airlines and Cruise ships aren't public so that's where the TSA should be and you wouldn't condone their involvement in public transportation. That opens up wide the avenues where the exact threat to far more people lies. Local law enforcement and budget were nowhere near your opening statement.

    Your question? Who said I would be OK with the locals doing it? Besides, I don't think any cruise ships are going to crash into a high rise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Honestly, your argument is hard to follow because you said that Airlines and Cruise ships aren't public so that's where the TSA should be and you wouldn't condone their involvement in public transportation. That opens up wide the avenues where the exact threat to far more people lies. Local law enforcement and budget were nowhere near your opening statement.

    Your question? Who said I would be OK with the locals doing it? Besides, I don't think any cruise ships are going to crash into a high rise.
    Actually I said nothing about public transportation DJ. What I did say was that I dont see a need for the tea on anything other than airlines and cruise ships. And like you I'm skeptical about needing them to screen cruise ship passengers. I wouldn't fee the same Eben if were private subways they were talking about.

    I feel the the airlines are a special case requiring a special response. And that should be the limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    And you support that, right? It's what you've been posting in favor of since you came here years, make that months ago. Really, has it only been 5 months? Seems way longer. Honesty should compel you to agree that what the government wants from TSA is good for USA. That has been your position from the beginning, middle, and end.
    What does how long I've been posting here have to do with the price of tea in china?


    And in fact you're wrong. Go rear my posts I have all along said that changes should be made and that profiling and such should be done

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Cruise ships and airlines are not public transportation, and ThAT is the only place I would condone the TSA being involved and have stated as such.
    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Actually I said nothing about public transportation DJ. What I did say was that I dont see a need for the tea on anything other than airlines and cruise ships. And like you I'm skeptical about needing them to screen cruise ship passengers. I wouldn't fee the same Eben if were private subways they were talking about.

    I feel the the airlines are a special case requiring a special response. And that should be the limit.
    By extension of logic you did; the opposite of NOT public is public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    By extension of logic you did; the opposite of NOT public is public.

    IF that is how you wish to read it, maybe you know better than I do what I believe though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    IF that is how you wish to read it, maybe you know better than I do what I believe though.
    :shrug: Just going by what you post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    :shrug: Just going by what you post.
    Fine, then go by what I post. At NO point did I say that any and all public transportation should be protected by the TSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Fine, then go by what I post. At NO point did I say that any and all public transportation should be protected by the TSA.
    A. What else would I go by?
    B. My God man; I, at no point, stated that you did...

    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    1. I'm glad there's a limit.
    2. Why would you condone government intervention in private transportation but not extend it to public. That would be backwards logic.
    ... only that you're condoning intrusion into the private sphere while not extending it to the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    What a fail..
    what the heck is that?


    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Cruise ships and airlines are not public transportation.
    I dont think I ever said it was
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    and ThAT is the only place I would condone the TSA being involved and have stated as such..
    well, since I was talking about a police state, then you must not condone any policing agency or govt agency to be screening passengers on any public transportation


    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Oh unless of course you would like us to believe that I am not who you were referring to as a nazi style police state supporter.
    Its always so much fun following your posts and seeing you stumble all over yourself.
    By the way, quite a few typos in this thread, you been drinkin?
    I DONT CLAIM TO KN0OW ANYTHING ABOUT HUMAN NATURE
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    OIR DO I KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CRITICAL THINKING

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvRPgrl View Post
    what the heck is that?




    I dont think I ever said it was
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    well, since I was talking about a police state, then you must not condone any policing agency or govt agency to be screening passengers on any public transportation




    Its always so much fun following your posts and seeing you stumble all over yourself.
    By the way, quite a few typos in this thread, you been drinkin?

    No , I was posting from my new Droid. I haven't quite gotten used to it yet. Thanks grammar Nazi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    No , I was posting from my new Droid. I haven't quite gotten used to it yet. Thanks grammar Nazi.
    It was a question.
    Speaking of nazi's, (truly the pot calling the kettle black when you do it)
    you didnt say anything about all police agencies being allowed to do screening, searches.
    I guess you cant just make something up about that one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvRPgrl View Post
    It was a question.
    Speaking of nazi's, (truly the pot calling the kettle black when you do it)
    you didnt say anything about all police agencies being allowed to do screening, searches.
    I guess you cant just make something up about that one...
    That is possible, or perhaps I just missed it, what are you saying about agencies and searches? Got a question for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    No , I was posting from my new Droid. I haven't quite gotten used to it yet. Thanks grammar Nazi.
    Ugh. I can't stand posting from a smart phone. It works for quick responses, but copy and pasting, editing--forget it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    Ugh. I can't stand posting from a smart phone. It works for quick responses, but copy and pasting, editing--forget it.
    This one has an annoying auto correct feature to. UGH it will turn the simplest misspellings into a word that isn't even close to what you mean if you're not careful.

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