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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Just curious, why a goal of lifting 320?
    benchmark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    benchmark.
    okay. I only exercise to stay in good health. I don't wake up and think "today , I'm gonna run X fast.... although I do think today I'm gonna outrun my wife. That doesn't happen regularly like it used to. she beats me about twice a week now, sometimes 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    okay. I only exercise to stay in good health. I don't wake up and think "today , I'm gonna run X fast.... although I do think today I'm gonna outrun my wife. That doesn't happen regularly like it used to. she beats me about twice a week now, sometimes 3.
    If you're already in good health that is usually the case. When starting out it's a good to give yourself some quantifiable benchmarks and weight training lends itself to that naturally. I don't know much about running so I can't say much there but I would assume running the same distance in less time would be a good measure of improving physical ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderknuckles View Post
    If you're already in good health that is usually the case. When starting out it's a good to give yourself some quantifiable benchmarks and weight training lends itself to that naturally. I don't know much about running so I can't say much there but I would assume running the same distance in less time would be a good measure of improving physical ability.
    well of course in running improvement is measured in both longer distances and faster times. Sadly I'm on the downhill. Shit, my 6 year old will be outrunning me soon.

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    Running is definitely not my thing. I guess when it comes to the "fight or flight" thing I will have to choose fight from now on. As for lifting, as many know I started about 17 weeks ago with the bare bar. I am up to about 150 on the bench press BUT that progress is slowing down a LOT. I don't have a specific weight I am trying to get to, I just wnat to be reasonably fit for an old guy. I am trying to live long enough to be a burden to my children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Just starting out.
    Not sure what the question is. It would depend on the lift, and the amount of weight. Fotr instance, if you are bench pressing 100 lbs, I'd say it won't take long at all. If you are bench pressing 200 lbs, I'd say you got a tough row to hoe. A standard when I was a kid before the bench press kings came into play (How much can you bench, bro?) was being able to lift your own bodyweight from the floor to over your head at least once.

    It also depends on your goal. People lift weight for different reasons. I lift for strength. Others lift for looks. That will also determine your workout, and the exercises you use.

    So, if you could elaborate a tad bit more, the question could have an easier answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Not sure what the question is. It would depend on the lift, and the amount of weight. Fotr instance, if you are bench pressing 100 lbs, I'd say it won't take long at all. If you are bench pressing 200 lbs, I'd say you got a tough row to hoe. A standard when I was a kid before the bench press kings came into play (How much can you bench, bro?) was being able to lift your own bodyweight from the floor to over your head at least once.

    It also depends on your goal. People lift weight for different reasons. I lift for strength. Others lift for looks. That will also determine your workout, and the exercises you use.

    So, if you could elaborate a tad bit more, the question could have an easier answer.
    I bench about 150, so would it be half way between not taking long at all and a tough row to hoe? I will be using a nautilus type thing, as I don't have a spotter (not sure how much equipment matters). I'm lifting primarily for strength reasons, at least initially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    I bench about 150, so would it be half way between not taking long at all and a tough row to hoe? I will be using a nautilus type thing, as I don't have a spotter (not sure how much equipment matters). I'm lifting primarily for strength reasons, at least initially.
    Definitely a tough row to hoe. Nautilus won't help. You have no one to push you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Definitely a tough row to hoe. Nautilus won't help. You have no one to push you.
    I don't know anyone who lifts. I could get my cousin into it, but he lives about 150 miles away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Definitely a tough row to hoe. Nautilus won't help. You have no one to push you.
    He doesn't mean Nautilus P, I think he is talking about the Smith Machine which is good in this case because he says he doesn't have a spotter and if he wants to lift some really heavy weight its his only option and not kill himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    He doesn't mean Nautilus P, I think he is talking about the Smith Machine which is good in this case because he says he doesn't have a spotter and if he wants to lift some really heavy weight its his only option and not kill himself.
    I'd guess not but you could be right, I'm envisioning those machines that are designed to do one thing. He could do a lot without a spotter and still stick with free weights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    I bench about 150, so would it be half way between not taking long at all and a tough row to hoe? I will be using a nautilus type thing, as I don't have a spotter (not sure how much equipment matters). I'm lifting primarily for strength reasons, at least initially.
    I lift dead weight. Macines are cool I guess, if that's what you want. I can lift a lot more on a machine than I can dead weight. The drawback to machines is your secondary muscles that come into play to balance and control dead weight don't come into play. All you have to do is rack the machine. There's no balance and control. Just pushing from pint A to point B.

    I will state however that using the machine is better than doing nothing at all, and kudos to you for doing so. I don't expect everyone should be able to lift as I do, and I'm certainly not saying my way is the only way.

    If you're on a nautilus-type machine, try doing 10 reps for your first set. Then add 10-20 lbs per set until you are at 6 reps. If I recall you correctly, you're a tad bit aged to try going for singles. 3-6 reps will increase your strength. 10 and over is bodybuilding stuff.

    Like I said, depends on what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    He doesn't mean Nautilus P, I think he is talking about the Smith Machine which is good in this case because he says he doesn't have a spotter and if he wants to lift some really heavy weight its his only option and not kill himself.
    I'm thinking home gym type stuff. I've known BD for a couple of years. He's usually pretty straight to the point. If one wishes to push the limits, a Smith machine is a good bet. Same with a rack. You can always bail.
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    I belong to snap fitness, one of those 24 gyms. So if you're familiar with those, that's the equipment I am using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    I belong to snap fitness, one of those 24 gyms. So if you're familiar with those, that's the equipment I am using.
    LOL. Never heard of it. I always used the base gym until I had managed to acquire about 600 lbs in Olympic weights. I have been known to use my patio, garage and even living room since, depending on where I was living and how much room. I kept everything in the hall closet in VA and dragged it to the living room every day. Made my own pullup bar by hanging to eyebolts with hooks into the patio beam and putting a Universal machine pulldown bar in the hooks. My current pullup bar is an old weight bar suspended between two rafters in the garage.

    The topic and hand ... you said you can bench press 150. How many times? If it's only once, back off that weight and work up from 100 lbs, adding ten pounds per set. One of the hardest things to learn (took MY hard head 2 years) if you lift your max and/or try to exceed it each and every workout, you'll not increase your lifts. I struggled with 275 for 2 years. Meaning I could lift 270 on chest day, twice a week. Once I dropped back and started using lighter weight and more reps, the next time I tried singles I was over 300.
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