Don't sugar coat it: You mean ZERO say. My advice to men is that your only protection from having your child murdered is good screening techniques. Be careful with whom you associate. And women wonder why they have difficulty finding a good guy.
It's pervasive enough to merit a song:
Both the man and woman had/have a responsibility when having sex. Just purely having an organ shouldn't negate what a man wants. A man can lose his child if the woman says so. IMO, the time to sort out who wants what, who is responsible for what, and what both want - is before having sex, or in a manner that could lead to pregnancy.
I know MANY guys who have had wives/girlfriends sneak off and get abortions without even discussing it with the man. Legal, but quite disgusting in my opinion.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
Maybe a lot of it has to do with women making demands once pregnant, and taking away any rights that a man could have and any say in the process. While I do despise deadbeat dads - I do find it odd that so many women don't give a shit what a man wants when determining what to do with a pregnancy, but will then scream from the mountains about men having to pay.
And quite frankly, I think a woman who has an abortion without a mans say - THAT is cutting and running.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
Just because you think a man losing his child is funny, doesn't mean others do. You scoff at what I say about men, but are the first to complain about dead beat dads. The woman has the uterus, let her decide whether or not to carry a baby to term. The man has the bank account, let him decide if he would like to pay. I'm guessing you won't scoff at that idea though and will demand that the man pay.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
I certainly wouldn't want to debate something with people who only agree with me. But when someone has no debate, and says "poor men" and then starts into insulting lists ending with "you're just whining" - it's obvious they have little desire to debate and/or discuss the actual issue. Sometimes it's cool to get down in the mud with you and trade jabs, other times it's good to just leave you there oinking all by your lonesome.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
The issue is CHOICE. It used to not be a choice for a woman. Now it is.