The Origin of Oil Points to Young Earth

[-Cp]

Oh Stop with the 'THUMPER' site, CP. Get some real science. Geeeezzzz

You mean some ?


Evidently nothing is "science" unless it upholds your biased views eh?

[Insein]

All sums up my point. Everyone elses theories are wrong in certain isolated instances so ours must be right.

How then does the 6000 year old universe account for the slow movement of planets and stars? How does the 6000 year old universe even account for an entire race of species that no longer exist becoming the dominant beings on the planet and then dieing out all in less time then it took man to go from Christ to modern times? Or did dinosaurs truly walk with Homo-Sapiens until their extinction? If so then how come their are no written records of dinosaurs or even cave drawings of dinosaurs? Dinosaurs had to have existed, we've found their bones. But they never were alive during the time of man since nothing was ever written down?

The bible is a book of stories. It offers ways to live your life as a good person. It is NOT a chronological book of events because it didnt begin to be written until the 2nd Century BC. How could 4000 years worth of events be summed up in the year 200BC? Its the same as someone begining today and writing the history of time based on what we know.

Approximate date of original Bible writing.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_tora.htm

[-Cp]

The bible is a book of stories. It offers ways to live your life as a good person. It is NOT a chronological book of events because it didnt begin to be written until the 2nd Century BC. How could 4000 years worth of events be summed up in the year 200BC? Its the same as someone begining today and writing the history of time based on what we know.

You believe this because it seems you can't accept that fact that it was GOD who wrote the Bible - sure man penned it.. but it was God who told them what to write.... since he is the beginning and the end - it's not hard for a Christian to accept that the Bible IS (at times) a chronological book of events - furthermore, your stating that shows your ignorance of what's in the Bible. There is Chronological stuff in the Bible... Try reading the first chapter of Matthew (called the begats) if you don't believe that..

[Gaffer]

K... here are a few pieces of EVIDENCE for a Young Earth - for you out there who claim "junk science' - you'd better be able to back up your refutes to these issues and not just toss out random insults.



http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4005.asp

Nothing in this is cooborated with any scientific proof. Some say, scientist say, evolutionsts wrongly think, are not sientific proof of anything. There is nothing in any of that to show any scientific proof of anything. Its just one persons speculation. And not a very good one.

[Gaffer]

You believe this because it seems you can't accept that fact that it was GOD who wrote the Bible - sure man penned it.. but it was God who told them what to write.... since he is the beginning and the end - it's not hard for a Christian to accept that the Bible IS (at times) a chronological book of events - furthermore, your stating that shows your ignorance of what's in the Bible. There is Chronological stuff in the Bible... Try reading the first chapter of Matthew (called the begats) if you don't believe that..

That's just the way the muslims view things only in their case they believe god dictated to mohamad.

The bible is not a chronilogical book of events. Its a bunch of stories designed to show people how to live and in some cases attempting to explain the unexplainable. Like where the world came from.

[Missileman]

Do you have any information to dispute the claims of the article in the originating post?

How about EVERY geology book ever written for starters.

[jillian]

That's just the way the muslims view things only in their case they believe god dictated to mohamad.

The bible is not a chronilogical book of events. Its a bunch of stories designed to show people how to live and in some cases attempting to explain the unexplainable. Like where the world came from.

See... that's exactly right! Yet, some think *their* version of the bible should take the place of common sense and science. Under this "young earth" stuff there's no dinosaurs. So I'd have to guess that the bones I saw at the museum on Saturday simply were a figment of my imagination.

I've never quite figured out why the need to obscure scientific research when belief and science are perfectly compatible...... as long as one doesn't pretend the bible is science, of course.

[TheSage]

See... that's exactly right! Yet, some think *their* version of the bible should take the place of common sense and science. Under this "young earth" stuff there's no dinosaurs. So I'd have to guess that the bones I saw at the museum on Saturday simply were a figment of my imagination.

I've never quite figured out why the need to obscure scientific research when belief and science are perfectly compatible...... as long as one doesn't pretend the bible is science, of course.

And how does the bible teach people to live? To kill babies and institute totalitarianist racial supremacy?

[The ClayTaurus]

You mean some ?


Evidently nothing is "science" unless it upholds your biased views eh?

Do you have anything beyond that one site, or something that wasn't linked to by that site??

[Insein]

You believe this because it seems you can't accept that fact that it was GOD who wrote the Bible - sure man penned it.. but it was God who told them what to write.... since he is the beginning and the end - it's not hard for a Christian to accept that the Bible IS (at times) a chronological book of events - furthermore, your stating that shows your ignorance of what's in the Bible. There is Chronological stuff in the Bible... Try reading the first chapter of Matthew (called the begats) if you don't believe that..

God didnt write the Bible. A bunch of men wrote the Bible. Your "belief" is that God spoke to them about what to write. Thats a perfectly acceptable "belief." That is NOT a basis for scientific fact. As Jillian (of all people) stated in this thread, Science and Religion are not at odds with one another. Both can coexist. Its when hard heads on both sides insist on completely unprovable theories being true (Like there being no god or that the world/universe is only 6000 years old) that you run into problems with one another. Why can't God have created all that there is and science be the human attempt to explain that existence? Why does all of science that man has established for millenia have to be thrown away to ultimately prove that a book of stories is the actual history of man?

Also, the "begats" is nothing more then a family tree. I've seen plenty of them. It records the family line back to Abraham who wasnt the original life form on this planet. He was the original Jew on this planet. He was the oldest known member of the Tribes of the Jews. This retelling of a family tree offers nothing to chronology except for that particular family tree.

And for the last fucking time, when someone disagrees with your theories, don't call them ignorant.

[jillian]

And how does the bible teach people to live? To kill babies and institute totalitarianist racial supremacy?

Anyone ever tell you you're a putz?

[Grumplestillskin]

Anyone ever tell you you're a putz?

Plenty of times...probably why he hates Jews...

[jillian]

Plenty of times...probably why he hates Jews...

Might be true. I just always thought he was dumped by a Jew-girl and harbors all this resentment.

[manu1959]

How's this? The bible isn't science and the fundie types should stop trying to muck up science by tryng to pretend that religion and science are interchangeable. Scientific method and peer-reviewed work are far different from the type of thing you're talking about.

science has never been wrong?

[jillian]

science has never been wrong?

So that means that we should take something that has absolutely no scientific value and pretend it's science? The bible is about faith.... religious faith... moral faith. It has nothing to do with science, nor is it supposed to.