What a vile, scumbag organization!

[Wind Song]

That about sums up the very nature of the problem WS.
Thank you.

That's correct. A fetus does not have legal status until the second and third trimesters.

[Wind Song]

^no more invasive than what got one pregnant to begin with; and with few exceptions, that was elective. Not to mention, abortion is an elective invasive procedure.

What's the difference between manual rape--inserting a stick into the vagina against the woman's will-- and inserting a sonogram tube in the woman's vagina against her will?

Both are invasive and as you propose it, both are against the woman's will. You favor FORCED sonograms.

[tailfins]

That's correct. A fetus does not have legal status until the second and third trimesters.

And that's only due to hard work from the pro-life movement.

By the way: I think it stinks that you got banned.

What's the difference between manual rape--inserting a stick into the vagina against the woman's will-- and inserting a sonogram tube in the woman's vagina against her will?

Both are invasive and as you propose it, both are against the woman's will. You favor FORCED sonograms.

Simple: If she doesn't want a sonogram, don't have an abortion.

[Wind Song]

YES! A thousand times, yes!

Aand that is EXACTLY why she so badly wants to have gay marriage legalized.

Why don't you ask me why I want a marriage license instead of TELLING me why I want it? It's for practical legal reasons.

I don't want your approval, nor do I accept your moral condemnation of me as a lesbian.

Your religion is very important to you, and I accept that. I hope you'd accept other religions support marriage equality and see it for the civil rights issue that it is.

It's CIVIL law.

[logroller]

What's the difference between manual rape--inserting a stick into the vagina against the woman's will-- and inserting a sonogram tube in the woman's vagina against her will?

Both are invasive and as you propose it, both are against the woman's will. You favor FORCED sonograms.

What's the difference? What's the difference between manual rape-- inserting a speculum into the vagina, dilating the cervix and removing a fetus? What's the difference between a sonogram and an abortion? Gee, I don't know; I guess nothing. Both are invasive and as you propose it, both are against the woman's will. You favor FORCED abortions.

[jimnyc]

By the way: I think it stinks that you got banned.

You don't think the written rules of the board need to be enforced? We RARELY ban, but sometimes have little choice. AND, her ban was lifted and a PM sent to her explaining why she was banned, and that she was welcome back. I'm not so sure that "stinks".

[jimnyc]

You don't think the written rules of the board need to be enforced? We RARELY ban, but sometimes have little choice. AND, her ban was lifted and a PM sent to her explaining why she was banned, and that she was welcome back. I'm not so sure that "stinks".

I meant to say that the ban was lifted only several hours after implemented.

[tailfins]

You don't think the written rules of the board need to be enforced? We RARELY ban, but sometimes have little choice. AND, her ban was lifted and a PM sent to her explaining why she was banned, and that she was welcome back. I'm not so sure that "stinks".

View my post through the lens of corporate culture. I'm not faulting you. Now I see what makes HR people earn their pay.

[jimnyc]

View my post through the lens of corporate culture. I'm not faulting you. Now I see what makes HR people earn their pay.

This is why we have a rule about staff decisions being discussed publicly. Regular members don't always have the benefit of knowing what we know. But I can assure you, and long time members can back this up, we take bans seriously and rarely resort to moderating. So if you see that someone was given a 24hr timeout, 99.99% of the time they deserved a little vacation.

[logroller]

This is why we have a rule about staff decisions being discussed publicly. Regular members don't always have the benefit of knowing what we know. But I can assure you, and long time members can back this up, we take bans seriously and rarely resort to moderating. So if you see that someone was given a 24hr timeout, 99.99% of the time they deserved a little vacation.

Wait, you're giving out vacations? I thought you just banned them. I should have been more inquisitive about these staff decisions.

[jimnyc]

Wait, you're giving out vacations? I thought you just banned them. I should have been more inquisitive about these staff decisions.

It's like total recall for rule breaking members!

[tailfins]

This is why we have a rule about staff decisions being discussed publicly. Regular members don't always have the benefit of knowing what we know. But I can assure you, and long time members can back this up, we take bans seriously and rarely resort to moderating. So if you see that someone was given a 24hr timeout, 99.99% of the time they deserved a little vacation.

I'm not doubting you. Think of it this way: An employee comes back from a suspension and the HR manager says "I think it stinks that you got suspended". That HR manager is not saying they oppose the suspension, just that they are sad to see someone get suspended. Then they might say "Let's not dwell on it and let's move forward".

[jimnyc]

Then they might say "Let's not dwell on it and let's move forward".

[logroller]

Some people just don't know any better.

Once I implemented her logic, showing that she favors forced abortions, she had to return her regular diatribe. Its sad really...but in a funny way... like AIDS.

[Wind Song]

Logroller--

Get a clue. Either debate the topic with me or put me completely on ignore and leave me alone.

Your choice.

wind