Rejecting the Victim Label: Women Activists

[Wind Song]

if I did drop dead, would I be a victim, or would that just be bad karma?


By the way , wishing death on someone can't be good for your own karma. What would the fat fuck say?

You've got a lot of nerve talking about USMB here after lying to me for months.

[jimnyc]

I notice the questions about women getting beaten go unanswered. One can only assume that Wind Song has no problem with women being beaten and it always just means they aren't empowered.

Why do you wish women to be beaten, Dorothy?

[Wind Song]

I notice the questions about women getting beaten go unanswered. One can only assume that Wind Song has no problem with women being beaten and it always just means they aren't empowered.

Why do you wish women to be beaten, Dorothy?

I never said any such thing. I'm not in favor of calling a woman who has been beaten a victim. I call her a survivor of violence.
I call her strong, heroic.


You on the other hand, drop the "victim" label indiscriminately. That's just the kind of guy you are/

[jimnyc]

I never said any such thing. I'm not in favor of calling a woman who has been beaten a victim. I call her a survivor of violence.
I call her strong, heroic.


You on the other hand, drop the "victim" label indescriminately.

So, based on your own words, women that are abused by their husbands, and beaten, worldwide - the are no victims of domestic violence - only survivors.

[logroller]

The worst putdown you can use on this forum is to call someone a victim. Notice how liberally you want to apply it when it comes to women, even the woman in the OP who is CLEARLY not a victim in any way.

She is a hero. She is willing to die for her rights.

Don't call someone willing to die for their rights a victim. The term, "victim", as it is used on this forum, is a derogatory term.

Just since you got here did that word gain the popularity it has; likely because you are wanton of victimization. Before that the preferred derogatory terms were variations of lib... Libtard was my favorite.

[ConHog]

Agreed, which makes it sadder. But if someone knows they have this issue, which they have admitted, why not take steps to improve? Why purposely become the victim, or the aggressor, all in the name of ATTENTION?

Personally Jim, I think it's time to stop calling her a victim, a victim denotes someone who suffered something they didn't wish to go through. I can only conclude that WS LIKES the negative attention and that she is purposely does what she can do to get it.

[jimnyc]

Personally Jim, I think it's time to stop calling her a victim, a victim denotes someone who suffered something they didn't wish to go through. I can only conclude that WS LIKES the negative attention and that she is purposely does what she can do to get it.

I KNOW she is no victim. She tries to PLAY the victim to get the attention and have a reason to start shit with other people and complain. But we agree, her playing the victim card is an affront to all REAL victims.

[Wind Song]

So, based on your own words, women that are abused by their husbands, and beaten, worldwide - the are no victims of domestic violence - only survivors.

No one wants to be thought of as a victim.

[Wind Song]

I KNOW she is no victim. She tries to PLAY the victim to get the attention and have a reason to start shit with other people and complain. But we agree, her playing the victim card is an affront to all REAL victims.

No, I'm not a victim and I don't play one on TV either. I tell the truth about how I feel. From day one, I called you on your shit. You don't like that, Jim?

Too bad.

[Abbey Marie]

Note. You and Abbey have high jacked this thread and made it about abortion. Off topic. There are tons of threads about abortion. Why not take your fanatical religious trip there?

Until you stop calling every person with Christian beliefs "fanatics", you will never be taken seriously. Enough already.

[Abbey Marie]

I don't consider aborted fetuses to be victims.

How about people murdered in concentration camps?

[Abbey Marie]

There is "nuance" to life?

Well, duh! A skilled abortionist could terminate life with nuance. All depends on the handling of the instruments. And how much finesse is used in tossing the "products of conception" into the bin.

[Abbey Marie]

First of all, if you scroll back, you will see that Abbey tried to turn this thread into a thread about the morality of abortion and has completely succeeded. I didn't intend nor desire to discuss Buddhism in this thread. That's why I objected to the change of course.

This thread is about women who reject the label, "victim".

I already said this, but, golly gee, you ignored it. Color me surprised.

I tried to use Chinese gender abortion as an example of how ridiculous it is to say that women are not victims. To discuss your argument that Afghani women are not victims. YOU keep trying to turn my reply into a post about abortion. If you want to discuss abortion again, just say so.

[Abbey Marie]

If you truly contemplate interdependence you see that no one is a true victim. We are all co-creators.

Rape victims used to be considered co-creators of their own rapes, too.

(Oops, I just called them victims).

[Abbey Marie]

So, based on your own words, women that are abused by their husbands, and beaten, worldwide - the are no victims of domestic violence - only survivors.

So we see why she didn't want to answer the aborted females question- no "survivors' there.