Obamacare upheld

[red state]

Aboutime is right...as usual. This is nothing but a socialistic power grab and we still don't know everything that's in it but much of what we do know is extremely bad. It has very, Very, VERY little good in it but opening the State line to insurance shopping would definitely be one factor among many that would make "obamacare" obsolete.

Changing the subject but how does one go to the CAGE here....I haven't come across that yet but have found the ONE on ONE debate section. And for the record, Tyr is an extremely honorable individual and as fair a person as I know (until you try and trample OUR freedoms). In that event, he's as mean as I can be. HA! OCA, I don't waste my time reading Huffington Post either but I do read local and nation news (briefly). They are read briefly but like liberal talk shows, I can stomach only so much garbage. I usually watch FOX and jump to CNN on occasion just to get a second opinion. CNN are usually full of junk journalism but sometimes they actually nail it (sometimes). I suggest folks read Sword of the Lord. Now that is news I can get into as it has news and commentary afterward. I simply do not see wasting my time reading a liberal paper when they add something that I already know to be an outright lie. When I come across that within a story (and I usually do) I put it in the trash or change the web page. It is good to know one's enemy BUT I can stomach only so much of their misleading. You sir, are the second person that I know of who has assumed Tyr to be something he is not and I don't believe you want to put yourself in the same boat as that @$$HOLE.

In closing and getting back on subject, this entire debate/conversation should not be going on because upholding obamacare was a fishy, corrupt decision because it was not created, introduced or admitted to be a tax and Roberts couldn't even say what kind of tax it was....only that is is NOT a tax in one situation but IS a tax for the other possibility as long as it suits his/their need. George Bush seems to continually come back to bite us in the @$$....and I had to vote for him twice!!! I hope for a change (REAL CHANGE) when I can vote for someone who excites me to the point that AMERICA will once again be what she is supposed to be....the blatant corruption we see going on now is not the AMERICA that I know.

Missileman. That is almost exactly what many of us out here in NEVER, NEVER land have been trying to say for years.
The key word is "COMPETITION". We need the government, federal, and state, to get out of the way, and allow ACROSS STATE LINES business practices that allow people in one state, to purchase insurance in another state.
If that took place. The OBAMACARE fiasco would DIE like a stuffed Micheal Moore Rotten Tomato.

[Roo]

[COLOR="#0000FF"And for the record, Tyr is an extremely honorable individual and as fair a person as I know (until you try and trample OUR freedoms). In that event, he's as mean as I can be. ][/COLOR]

There is a strong egocentric streak that wipes away much of what you would term "honrable and fair".

I find people that hold their own opinions in such high regard generally to be trying to make up for something that they are lacking....ego has a way of derailing what might otherwise be something worthwhile to read.

Roo<----just some some schmuck from Omaha that doesn't take himself too seriously.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Aboutime is right...as usual. This is nothing but a socialistic power grab and we still don't know everything that's in it but much of what we do know is extremely bad. It has very, Very, VERY little good in it but opening the State line to insurance shopping would definitely be one factor among many that would make "obamacare" obsolete.

Changing the subject but how does one go to the CAGE here....I haven't come across that yet but have found the ONE on ONE debate section. And for the record, Tyr is an extremely honorable individual and as fair a person as I know (until you try and trample OUR freedoms). In that event, he's as mean as I can be. HA! OCA, I don't waste my time reading Huffington Post either but I do read local and nation news (briefly). They are read briefly but like liberal talk shows, I can stomach only so much garbage. I usually watch FOX and jump to CNN on occasion just to get a second opinion. CNN are usually full of junk journalism but sometimes they actually nail it (sometimes). I suggest folks read Sword of the Lord. Now that is news I can get into as it has news and commentary afterward. I simply do not see wasting my time reading a liberal paper when they add something that I already know to be an outright lie. When I come across that within a story (and I usually do) I put it in the trash or change the web page. It is good to know one's enemy BUT I can stomach only so much of their misleading. You sir, are the second person that I know of who has assumed Tyr to be something he is not and I don't believe you want to put yourself in the same boat as that @$$HOLE.

In closing and getting back on subject, this entire debate/conversation should not be going on because upholding obamacare was a fishy, corrupt decision because it was not created, introduced or admitted to be a tax and Roberts couldn't even say what kind of tax it was....only that is is NOT a tax in one situation but IS a tax for the other possibility as long as it suits his/their need. George Bush seems to continually come back to bite us in the @$$....and I had to vote for him twice!!! I hope for a change (REAL CHANGE) when I can vote for someone who excites me to the point that AMERICA will once again be what she is supposed to be....the blatant corruption we see going on now is not the AMERICA that I know.

Our government is corrupt and that corruption has infiltrated the SCOTUS as well. This coming election will be the decider if the Republic stands or eventually falls. My critics can piss and moan all they care to ,doesnt change the reality that this nation is in far greater peril than at any time since WW2. -Tyr

[aboutime]

I have said the same thing about state ines MM

In fact R's wanted that in Obamacare but Dems said no. The last thing the Dems wanted was to open up markets to competition

They want private ins companies out of business

Of course. Obama and company need to chase Insurance companies OUT of business. It's the one, and only way Obama and the Dems can get TOTAL control over everyone. With no private insurance competition.
Obama and the Dems can SET THE PRICE, and DETERMINE WHO will get what coverage from OBAMA-DEM INSURANCE, aka GOVERNMENT INSURANCE.
And, just as Justice Roberts told us on Thursday....Any American who DOES NOT PURCHASE Obama-Dem/Govt. Insurance will be TAXED,...or is it FINED?
Socialism is that PAIN IN THE ASS every American will really start feeling in January if Obama wins in November.

[Roo]

Of course. Obama and company need to chase Insurance companies OUT of business. It's the one, and only way Obama and the Dems can get TOTAL control over everyone. With no private insurance competition.
Obama and the Dems can SET THE PRICE, and DETERMINE WHO will get what coverage from OBAMA-DEM INSURANCE, aka GOVERNMENT INSURANCE.
And, just as Justice Roberts told us on Thursday....Any American who DOES NOT PURCHASE Obama-Dem/Govt. Insurance will be TAXED,...or is it FINED?
Socialism is that PAIN IN THE ASS every American will really start feeling in January if Obama wins in November.

The ONLY way this could have been avoided was to strike down the ENTIRE Bill, not just the mandate.

All the mandate does is speed up the process.

The ONLY companies that can sell policies are those APPROVED by the State Exchanges....which are the enforcement mechanisms for the Federal Coverage Mandates.

ALL insurance providers approved will offer the SAME coverages for the SAME premiums.....

[red states rule]

Of course. Obama and company need to chase Insurance companies OUT of business. It's the one, and only way Obama and the Dems can get TOTAL control over everyone. With no private insurance competition.
Obama and the Dems can SET THE PRICE, and DETERMINE WHO will get what coverage from OBAMA-DEM INSURANCE, aka GOVERNMENT INSURANCE.
And, just as Justice Roberts told us on Thursday....Any American who DOES NOT PURCHASE Obama-Dem/Govt. Insurance will be TAXED,...or is it FINED?
Socialism is that PAIN IN THE ASS every American will really start feeling in January if Obama wins in November.

[avatar4321]

WOO WOOO.....this way to the empty rhetoric train!

Empty rhetoric? We are talking about human lives here. Do you honestly think making our health care system worse is going to keep people alive?

[red states rule]

Empty rhetoric? We are talking about human lives here. Do you honestly think making our health care system worse is going to keep people alive?

Many like OCA and Nell seem to think it is better for the state that the old, and terminally ill die fast and save the money time, effort, and money

America is looking like 1932 Berlin when human life is measured in dollars and cents by the government and the supporters of Obamacare

[aboutime]

Empty rhetoric? We are talking about human lives here. Do you honestly think making our health care system worse is going to keep people alive?

That was a typical kind of liberal response avatar. They always seem to think they are much smarter, wiser, and knowledgeable than everyone else. So, they use the patronizing route to declare how Empty they honestly believe...everyone but them...really is.

Much like never honestly taking time to answer questions when confronted with forms of truth they must always deny. Otherwise. They look bad for being exposed as liberally brainwashed, and never taking responsibility for their own Thoughts, or idea's.

So. It's just another of many days where the frustrated, and miserable do as Obama has taught them so well. Accuse others, and Blame others to conceal their own Shortcomings.

[red states rule]

[red states rule]

and the liberal media contniues to "report" how those who still oppose Obamacare are too stupid to understand it

http://www.mrctv.org/videos/joan-wal...althcare-works