Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
As a sports nut, I love to see a school that consistently draw bigger and better players and produce powerhouse teams. But at the same time, I have always have mucho respect for the Ivy League schools, and teams like West Point, and the Military teams. And then you see some nerdy type schools in engineering and such, where they win a game maybe like once every 10 years!

That's one of the main reasons I always loved Penn State. They were consistently a powerhouse team, but they always had grades first and it was a first class university that allowed for the best of both worlds.

I honestly am just learning about this NW stuff, good reading!
The problem with a Penn State or (ssshhh) Notre Dame, academics isn't coming a close second. There is no second, which is what U of Chi saw as the problem. It's still true. The bigger the program, the bigger the truth.