Julian Assange (WikiLeaks) granted asylum

[Dilloduck]

Well, good for you.

But not everyone does this. Some listen. Some recruit others of like mind, or who can be persuaded to become of like mind.

And, ultimately, the real point behind what Assange and his buddies do IS to build up an anti-American feeling, to the greatest pitch they can manage.

You can play their game, or, you can instead support your country's interests. I strongly urge you to do the latter.

Do you think I should trust a foreigner like you to tell me what is in my country's best interest ?

[Dilloduck]

Free speech is fine. But with such freedom comes responsibility.

Should Americans, for the sake of 'free speech', consider themselves free to disseminate anything they choose ? How about State secrets which compromise your security ?

Ever heard of TREASON, Dilloduck ?

So you see, for the sake of doing what's right for your people, there has to be a degree of control over what's disseminated. It IS easily possible to go too far. Assange, though, doesn't care about limits .. instead, if material comes his way which is likely to turn people against you, he has no qualms about publicising it.

And if the longer-term consequences are that you earn new enmities or outright enemies, well, I see no sign that Assange has any concern about that. But then ... he wouldn't. Would he ?

Who can predict what that may one day lead to ? Courtesy, that is, of Leftie America-haters who peddle their poisonous agenda on the back of 'the right to free speech' ...

LMAO--you sound like the church lady.
"Have you ever heard of SATANNNN."
Dude--again I have to tell you ---America has been hated by everyone at some point or another. It comes with the territory. The Russians, the Germans, the Japanese the Vietnamese, the Koreans etc etc etc.
I don't give a shit what they say nor am I going to yell "KILL EM ALL" everytime they whine. It's NOT WORTH IT.

[Drummond]

Do you think I should trust a foreigner like you to tell me what is in my country's best interest ?

Well, considering your willingness to suggest pro-Assange sympathies (I've even noted the Assange addition to your signature), and the fact that Assange is himself a foreigner ... how come your trust in foreigners suddenly 'stops' with me ??

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Do you think I should trust a foreigner like you to tell me what is in my country's best interest ?

Do you trust obama to tell you? Drummonds has more good will and bests interests for our nation than obama does. I've seen obama actions and have read many of big D's posts. Easy to see which one can be trusted and which one is an enemy. Barack Enemy Obama.= BEO... I'd trust Drummond over many government elected American officials anyday and 99% of those officials have a D next to their names. It is wise to know one's enemies, I am a strong believer in that!-Tyr

[Dilloduck]

Well, considering your willingness to suggest pro-Assange sympathies (I've even noted the Assange addition to your signature), and the fact that Assange is himself a foreigner ... how come your trust in foreigners suddenly 'stops' with me ??

Make up your mind. Should foreigners be trusted or not ? Personally I don't think your nor Assange's nationality makes a bit of difference.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

LMAO--you sound like the church lady.
"Have you ever heard of SATANNNN."
Dude--again I have to tell you ---America has been hated by everyone at some point or another. It comes with the territory. The Russians, the Germans, the Japanese the Vietnamese, the Koreans etc etc etc.
I don't give a shit what they say nor am I going to yell "KILL EM ALL" everytime they whine. It's NOT WORTH IT.

Don't yell "kill 'em all" but wouldn't it also be wise not to ignore them as if that solves anything. Not wise to ignore enemies, far better to keep a careful eye on them . Denying an enemy's agenda is foolhardy most of the time IMHO. Information is key to survival..-Tyr

[Drummond]

LMAO--you sound like the church lady.
"Have you ever heard of SATANNNN."
Dude--again I have to tell you ---America has been hated by everyone at some point or another. It comes with the territory. The Russians, the Germans, the Japanese the Vietnamese, the Koreans etc etc etc.
I don't give a shit what they say nor am I going to yell "KILL EM ALL" everytime they whine. It's NOT WORTH IT.

Can you tell me why it is that, in your reckoning, only your own view matters ?

The likes of Assange is hell-bent on whipping up anti-American sentiment. He, for one, and his Leftie buddies, for others, most certainly think it worth the effort to make America as disliked across the world as possible.

So, OK, you personally 'don't give a shit', to quote you. All well and good, for you personally ... congratulations. But the world, Dilloduck, doesn't begin and end with you.

Even said by a foreigner, I'm telling you that America's standing in the world MATTERS, and efforts to undermine that deserve to be countered as strongly as possible. This means, so far as I'm concerned, that making Assange properly accountable for his hate-fest is an excellent idea.

I look forward to the days when you do manage to extradite him to America ... and he gets what's coming to him, courtesy of an American court.

[Dilloduck]

Don't yell "kill 'em all" but wouldn't it also be wise not to ignore them as if that solves anything. Not wise to ignore enemies, far better to keep a careful eye on them . Denying an enemy's agenda is foolhardy most of the time IMHO. Information is key to survival..-Tyr

Are you kidding me ? We are spending BILLIONS for defense. We've got the entire country taking it's shoes of before we get on planes etc. etc etc. Defending ourselves against "terrorists" is costing us dearly. Where are all the WMDs that we sent soldiers in for ? THEY ARE STILL THERE . Even if soldiers wanna volunteer thier lives for the US I don't see it anymore. War just kills people.

[Drummond]

Make up your mind. Should foreigners be trusted or not ? Personally I don't think your nor Assange's nationality makes a bit of difference.

It's really rather simple.

Foreign Lefties are self-styled enemies of yours ... understandably so, as America's Capitalistic success in the world serves as a daily reminder to them that their creed is morally bankrupt, useless as a blueprint for human happiness.

You have absolutely no reason to trust them. Rather, regard them as enemies, as they regard you as their enemy.

I, on the other hand, am no Leftie ! I hate all forms of Socialism with a passion. Mankind's existence on this planet will be much improved on that day, which I do believe the world will one day see, when all Leftieism is expunged from the planet entirely.

[Dilloduck]

Can you tell me why it is that, in your reckoning, only your own view matters ?

The likes of Assange is hell-bent on whipping up anti-American sentiment. He, for one, and his Leftie buddies, for others, most certainly think it worth the effort to make America as disliked across the world as possible.

So, OK, you personally 'don't give a shit', to quote you. All well and good, for you personally ... congratulations. But the world, Dilloduck, doesn't begin and end with you.

Even said by a foreigner, I'm telling you that America's standing in the world MATTERS, and efforts to undermine that deserve to be countered as strongly as possible. This means, so far as I'm concerned, that making Assange properly accountable for his hate-fest is an excellent idea.

I look forward to the days when you do manage to extradite him to America ... and he gets what's coming to him, courtesy of an American court.

Even my view is of no concern in the bigger scope of things. People more powerful than I have propaganda machines running everywhere. Each of them only have their own concerns in mind.Good luck on getting an unbiased and truthful take on anything.

[Dilloduck]

It's really rather simple.

Foreign Lefties are self-styled enemies of yours ... understandably so, as America's Capitalistic success in the world serves as a daily reminder to them that their creed is morally bankrupt, useless as a blueprint for human happiness.

You have absolutely no reason to trust them. Rather, regard them as enemies, as they regard you as their enemy.

I, on the other hand, am no Leftie ! I hate all forms of Socialism with a passion. Mankind's existence on this planet will be much improved on that day, which I do believe the world will one day see, when all Leftieism is expunged from the planet entirely.

Peddle your hatred in your own country--they are your neighbors--they are in your city. Fix them or are they too close for ya ?

[Drummond]

Do you trust obama to tell you? Drummonds has more good will and bests interests for our nation than obama does. I've seen obama actions and have read many of big D's posts. Easy to see which one can be trusted and which one is an enemy. Barack Enemy Obama.= BEO... I'd trust Drummond over many government elected American officials anyday and 99% of those officials have a D next to their names. It is wise to know one's enemies, I am a strong believer in that!-Tyr

Very appreciated, Tyr, thank you !

[Dilloduck]

Very appreciated, Tyr, thank you !

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[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Peddle your hatred in your own country--they are your neighbors--they are in your city. Fix them or are they too close for ya ?

What hatred? Hatred for leftists? Why would that concern you? He gives good advice and you disagree but dont try to peddle his message as hatred of America. Or his points of view as anti-American. Or his stating Assange should face a court of law for his deeds as being hatred, it isn't! He admits hatred for leftists , big freaking deal, so do I .. And I bet mine is even more intense than his..-Tyr

[Drummond]

Peddle your hatred in your own country--they are your neighbors--they are in your city. Fix them or are they too close for ya ?

I'm not peddling hatred. However, I am in opposition to Left-wing hatred.

And this isn't the first time, is it, that you've tried to call on me to fix problems which affect YOU. Now, why is that ? Why are you set upon turning your back on problems laid at your door, not by me, but by those who particularly see themselves as your natural enemy ?

Assange has attacked America, in accordance with his Left-wing agenda. In my view you've every conceivable right to extradite this character to face American justice. But ... you seem resistant to the idea.

You indicate actual support for Assange by even including something from him in your signature !

Now, why would that be ?