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What's wrong with this picture, revelarts, is that you're supplying highly inaccurate information.
Al Qaeda is a terrorist organisation. It always HAS been a terrorist organisation. What I believe you're referring to as Al Qaeda, mistakenly, was 'The Mujahiddeen', then a resistance movement against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, most active in the early Eighties. Al Qaeda, revelarts, didn't EXIST until (depending on which source you quote from) 1988 or 1989 !!
The US assisted the Mujahiddeen. It has NEVER, to my understanding, assisted Al Qaeda .. why would it ? If Al Qaeda ever used materials left over from the PREVIOUS organisation, this is not something the US ever intended.
See, for example ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/1670089.stm
Revelarts, I've seen blame-game tactics used by the Left before, its only obvious purpose being to demoralise good Western intentions and therefore cause unfounded caution (at minimum) in the minds of those who'd otherwise want to act decisively. The US, revelarts, is responsible for nothing about Al Qaeda, other than how far it will go to defeat them .. their plans, their effectiveness, ultimately their very existence.Al-Qaeda, meaning "the base", was created in 1989 as Soviet forces withdrew from Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden and his colleagues began looking for new jihads.
The organisation grew out of the network of Arab volunteers who had gone to Afghanistan in the 1980s to fight under the banner of Islam against Soviet Communism.
During the anti-Soviet jihad Bin Laden and his fighters received American and Saudi funding. Some analysts believe Bin Laden himself had security training from the CIA.
The "Arab Afghans", as they became known, were battle-hardened and highly motivated.
In the early 1990s Al-Qaeda operated in Sudan. After 1996 its headquarters and about a dozen training camps moved to Afghanistan, where Bin Laden forged a close relationship with the Taleban.
The US campaign in Afghanistan starting in late 2001 dispersed the organisation and drove it underground as its personnel were attacked and its bases and training camps destroyed.
It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!
In case you've forgotten, the Soviet Union was on the Allied side for most of WWII (.. or is that ALL of it, from the US point of view ?). Now, by your reckoning, should the US go off on one almighty guilt trip because it ever engaged in a Cold War afterwards ?
Perhaps you'd argue that Communist forces have never been America's enemy ? That Communists should never have been opposed ??
It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!
The French tried to take back their original colony. The US had no say in that. It was a UN thing. Countries and territories that had been conquered during the war were given their sovereignty back or returned to their previous status except those over run by the USSR. That's how the cold war came into being.
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You get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you do with just a kind word.
Former head of the CIA Bin Laden Unit says Alqadea Islamist on the rise BECUASE we support "democracy" in the M.E. and we Meddle in there biz.
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http://www.cvce.eu/viewer/-/content/...72fc7669d96/en
LOL What were the French going to do to America if we had acknowledged Ho Chi Minh's assistance by recognizing their independence ? They got screwed as surely as Poland did.
A nutcase will do nutty things.
Saw an interesting bit last night on PBS that had Ho Chi Minh in Paris in 1919? to try and meet with Wilson and get his support in gaining independence back then. Unfortunately Wilson backtracked to appeasing the French, and others, in supporting their insistence on recolonizing. We worked with Ho during WWII against the Japanese but ultimately left them to the French and drove him further, completely?, towards the USSR.
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Thanks--i'm going to look into that further. I'm sure they were hoping the Atlantic Charter would come into play for them too but upon rejection by America and with France trying to beat them into submission again it doesn't come as much of a surprise that they looked to the communists for help.
A nutcase will do nutty things.
The problem is they are creating a democracy of the ignorant, headed up by theologians. Rule by mob. The left thinks they can gain from this, when all they are doing is setting up the next dictator. They learned nothing from iran. They are using the same method in all the other ME countries and are getting the same results. Theocratic dictatorships.
When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.
You get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you do with just a kind word.