I said before, there are agents of iran and the brotherhood here just waiting on orders. I expected things to break out in the ME before this, but when it does these groups will go into action and we will see combat here in our own country.
I said before, there are agents of iran and the brotherhood here just waiting on orders. I expected things to break out in the ME before this, but when it does these groups will go into action and we will see combat here in our own country.
When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.
You get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you do with just a kind word.
That because I did not callBush one and my calling obama one was not simply because of the camps as I've been calling him one for years. Do try to catch up, this explaining stuff you should already know from reading my posts is getting tiresome real quick. Also your replies lack substance and rarely impart new information on the topic. Now for example you have diverted away from the muslim training camps onto me and my posts instead by interjecting Bush into the mix. . Bush isnt president and isnt running any of those camps in case you missed that. Your diversions are getting to be too often your only reply.Thats getting old real fast too.-Tyr
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18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.
You get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you do with just a kind word.
That you have a double standard and that you yourself don't impart any new information in 95% of your posts is amusing to me. So do you have evidence that BO is "running those camps"? Quite possibly if some non-government whistleblowers got the secret video do you think that the FBI is also aware of their existence and is monitoring them quite closely?
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18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Most people are wrong then. Aiding (and abetting) is an affirmative act. Meaning, doing nothing is not aiding. If someone was lying in the street bleeding and I stood there watching, I certainly haven't given them aid. I think you mean negligence.
Btw, did you notice the guy in the video said the US as well as many state constitutions protect their organizing and training a militia. Thats true as long as its private I gather; but I believe public drilling is prohibited. It is alarming, but thankfully I live in one of the last bastions of conservatism in California. Still issuing concealed carry permits in my county. I forget the statistic about how many guns are in the us, something like 9 guns for every ten people-- I'm sure there's plenty of patriots ready and willing to defend this country if some yahoos get to acting crazy. I don't think we're at that point, but when and if it comes, preparations need to be made... food, water, medical supplies, logistics etc., not guns and ammo, there's plenty of that. But how long do you think America can remain responsive without transportation? What happens when medical facilities are overburdened? The key is organization and there's a lot out there already-- but everybody needs to do their part. It starts with taking the necessary precautions so that, in the event of an emergency, you minimize your own risk. I could show you some statistics, but I think it comes as no surprise that most deaths during a disaster, whether natural or as a result of belligerance, come from lack of food water shelter and medical care.
I'm a vetted volunteer for the hazardous response team in my county, which is an interagency partnership between fema,the state and county-- republicanism at work! So in the unlikely event of broad scale chemical release that overwhelms public servants, I get to take samples and help coordinate neutralization efforts. Others would set up triage, others focus on containment, communication with other agencies etc. My point is that not everyone needs to take up arms to defend this nation, and really very few in the grand scheme of public defense.
Martial law should be the last thing one should prepare for, not the first. We do have police, over half a million of em-- and i know they take public threats very seriously. I see it as my duty to not be a burden to them and assist them If possible. Toting a gun around "defending my country" would more likely be seen as a potential threat, not a help, but rather a hinderance and would distract them and their resources from those persons who really are a threat.
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See Jafar... this is where you dont understand how our Constitution works and most likely you never will.
The Second Amendment gives the right to KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. (Rifles, Shotguns, Pistols) So the "terrorist" camps of these militias will hold the usual assortment of hunting Rifles, Shotguns and LEGALLY AVAILABLE Semi-Automatic Assault rifles that can be purchased at any gun store. That is what these militias will have. They'll be out deep in the woods and away from the General population.
now...lets take GAZA for instance...
A MILITIA CAMP in GAZA ( Or any other Muslim Country) will have AUTOMATIC Rifles, Rocket Launchers, Long range Rockets, RPG's, Hand grenades, Plastic Explosives, Artillery Rounds, Mines, and Machine Guns. It will be located in a civilian population area in close proximity to other people.
now.... Who are you calling Terrorists?
You know, the last time I was in Germany and saw a man standing above everybody else, we ended up disagreeing.
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Being willing and able to defend ones life and property is never wrong! It would be a great aid to local authorities not a hinderance. We saw how well the cops in New Orleans responded, didnt we? The broke laws, murder a few people and went about illegally confiscating citizen's guns! Nobody has authority to come to my home , demand my guns and threaten force to take them, if they do I'll kill them. Just that simple. Perhaps you do not understand what a patriot is my friend. In simple terms a patriot will be an armed citizen that simply will not allow himself to be enslaved or disarmed by illegal and Unconstitutional authorities. Until the 2nd amendment is repealed any confiscation of legal arms from citizens is ILLEGAL.. The cops in New Orleans had zero authority to confiscate those guns. I would have shot anybody, if I had been there and they tried to take mine.
All fine that you volunteer and suggest keeping emergency supplies but if nobody is willing to fight for whats right and our freedoms , should a major civil unrest turn violent , then what good would it be to save yourself just to become a slave? Perhaps your concept of freedom and mine are too far apart. I seem to be 100% with the founders and their intent when they risked their all to create the greatest nation on earth. Too many others it seems merely want to live in any state of degradation regardless.--Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
But you said the the 2nd amendment is there for when the govt forgets about the 1st. All terrorists (or freedom fighters if you like) are fighting against a govt using terrorism to force the govt into submission. In that regard there is no difference between when you call terrorists and what you call a militia going out to defend the 1st amendment.
اشهد ان لا اله الا الله و اشهد ان محمدا رسول الله
We are talking about potentially protecting ourselves from a tyrannical government. When V4R speaks of Hamas for example, and the weapons they have - what government is it they are fighting when they lob non-stop rockets into a civilian populace in Israel? The difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is who they target. If one targets a legitimate tyrannical government, or occupying troops, I suppose they are defending their country or fighting back. When groups go out of their way to target civilians, well, they are terrorists. Legitimate freedom fighters or militias won't be out there trying to kill innocent civilians to get a point across.
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