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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Thank you for volunteering so early.

    Good of you to know and acknowledge your weaknesses.
    Rape is about violence and asserting physical and mental control over a woman.
    Anyone who still thinks rape is about sex needs to publicly admit they are an idiot and go back to the baboon cage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Does a straight pedophile rape little girls because he's straight? Does his heterosexuality play any role at all in the rape of a child?
    Yeah... why wouldn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    Yeah... why wouldn't it?
    Does your average heterosexual rape children? When you answer no, and the answer is no, it's an indication that pedophilia isn't grounded in heterosexuality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Rape is about violence and asserting physical and mental control over a woman.
    Anyone who still thinks rape is about sex needs to publicly admit they are an idiot and go back to the baboon cage.
    bullshit - that line of "reasoning" is part of the agenda to push sexuality. If Sex can be bad, EVER, then it presents problems to people, like yourself, who push sexuality as a defining characteristic.

    Get out of last century with your understanding about the psychology of rape, Gabby.


    Emphasis mine
    ...rape takes different forms, including a political version and a sadistic version but the majority of sexual assaults are more about sexual gratification than control over women per se...
    But to argue that the casual rapist isn't raping for sex but for violence, power, and control is rather like saying that the mugger mugs people as an act of violence rather than because he wants their money or that the shoplifter shoplifts purely out of kleptomania or to get revenge on the store, not in order to, you know, get stuff free. Or that the person who murders witnesses isn't doing it to keep them from talking but just for the sake of the violence itself.

    ...

    Which leads in to the reason why we keep hearing that rape is not about sex. It is philosophically untenable to keep pushing the boundaries of the sexual revolution without making rape seem less and less violative by comparison, as the act which is coerced in rape becomes less and less private, personal, and valued in society. So the only way to retain the sense of horror at rape is to alter the rationale for rape being bad; that the goal is total violation, so that the violence becomes the issue; rather than the horror coming from the intimacy of the act which was forced upon the victim, which is the old rationale.

    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Does your average heterosexual rape children? When you answer no, and the answer is no, it's an indication that pedophilia isn't grounded in heterosexuality.
    Kind of a problem here - first, and namely, the 'average' almost NEVER happens within a group. The 'average' person doesn't do very much at all.


    Homosexuals rape. Heterosexuals rape. A heterosexual cannot rape somebody of the same gender; because if the person is raping somebody of the same gender, they are homosexual.

    Homosexual/Heterosexual - they are verbs; defined by what we do, or do not do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Rape is about violence and asserting physical and mental control over a woman.
    Anyone who still thinks rape is about sex needs to publicly admit they are an idiot and go back to the baboon cage.
    It could be argued then that when women wear sexually enticing and revealing clothing, they are attempting to gain mental control over men and elicit physical responses from them. Rape, therefore, would just be the man retaking control over his own responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post

    Kind of a problem here - first, and namely, the 'average' almost NEVER happens within a group. The 'average' person doesn't do very much at all.


    Homosexuals rape. Heterosexuals rape. A heterosexual cannot rape somebody of the same gender; because if the person is raping somebody of the same gender, they are homosexual.

    Homosexual/Heterosexual - they are verbs; defined by what we do, or do not do.
    Homosexual/Heterosexual are not verbs, they are adjectives. And unless you actually believe that the majority of men in the prison system are homosexual, the bolded section is inaccurate.
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    The majority of men in prison aren't boinking each other. The rule of common sense still stands: if you get it up for a man, you're gay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    The majority of men in prison aren't boinking each other. The rule of common sense still stands: if you get it up for a man, you're gay.
    And if you rape your kids (or anybody else's) you should have a hot piece of lead sent at super sonic speed right between your eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Homosexual/Heterosexual are not verbs, they are adjectives. And unless you actually believe that the majority of men in the prison system are homosexual, the bolded section is inaccurate.
    They are homosexuals until they stop having sex with others of their gender. Absolutely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Homosexual/Heterosexual are not verbs, they are adjectives. And unless you actually believe that the majority of men in the prison system are homosexual, the bolded section is inaccurate.
    Maybe not the majority - but ANY man, in prison or not, who decides to engage in sex with another man, to get his jollies off or for a long term affair - is a homo IMO.
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    Saying that rape is about sex is like saying that being a soldier is about killing. You join the military to kill people, right? Obviously you enjoyed killing people, right Darin? You looked forward to your next chance to kill people, didn't you? Isn't that why you still own guns? So you can fantasize about killing people?

    Anyone who has taken the most basic psychology courses knows rape is about power and control. It isn't about sexual urges and needs.
    It isn't about how a woman dresses or looks. It is about taking controlling of another person.

    Men need to stop blaming rape on the victim. That is why so few rapes are reported. That is why there is such an epidemic of violence against women.
    Men who blame rape on women are often sexual abusers themselves. Many mentally and physically abuse their spouses and children. Because they have this fantasy that they need more respect that they are not getting.

    Sorry Darin (and anyone else who believes rape is about sex), you are dead fucking WRONG. And I feel sorry for your family if you continually have these sick fantasies about rape and sex. Obviously you were raised wrong and continue to be sick in the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Men need to stop blaming rape on the victim.
    Who is doing that? I might disagree at times with the motives, and desires - but its NEVER the victims fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Saying that rape is about sex is like saying that being a soldier is about killing. You join the military to kill people, right? Obviously you enjoyed killing people, right Darin? You looked forward to your next chance to kill people, didn't you? Isn't that why you still own guns? So you can fantasize about killing people?

    Anyone who has taken the most basic psychology courses knows rape is about power and control. It isn't about sexual urges and needs.
    It isn't about how a woman dresses or looks. It is about taking controlling of another person.

    Men need to stop blaming rape on the victim. That is why so few rapes are reported. That is why there is such an epidemic of violence against women.
    Men who blame rape on women are often sexual abusers themselves. Many mentally and physically abuse their spouses and children. Because they have this fantasy that they need more respect that they are not getting.

    Sorry Darin (and anyone else who believes rape is about sex), you are dead fucking WRONG. And I feel sorry for your family if you continually have these sick fantasies about rape and sex. Obviously you were raised wrong and continue to be sick in the head.
    At no point did you issue would could be considered a valid point, much less a rational thought.

    You wanna debate this? I will destroy your arguments if you promise to avoid logical fallacy.

    Your mindset in folks forbids truth, however. Go back and read the links i posted, then come back if you want to talk like grown-ups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    At no point did you issue would could be considered a valid point, much less a rational thought.

    You wanna debate this? I will destroy your arguments if you promise to avoid logical fallacy.

    Your mindset in folks forbids truth, however. Go back and read the links i posted, then come back if you want to talk like grown-ups.
    You are a farking idiot who doesn't know what he is talking about. Unless you are a rapist and are speaking from personal experience. In which case you might have a valid argument and I could be wrong.
    Why should I "debate" someone on a topic they know nothing about? You have no experience in this other than jerking off to porn.

    I have worked in rape centers, prisons and halfway houses. Most rapists stalk their victim before attacking. Many rape several women. A large number of rapists has issues in their past that have caused them to hate women. Some come from bad marriages or bad relationships. Others were sexually abused as a child.

    Women dress like women. If puritanical American men weren't so uptight about boobs (which I know many of you are) and other body parts, they could actually walk down a street and not think about women as sex objects.

    If anyone wants to know what rape is about, go volunteer in a rape crisis center. Go talk with police officers who investigate rapes.

    Darin, if you can stop thinking with your dick long enough to post a valid reply, go ahead. That will prove your point right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    You are a farking idiot who doesn't know what he is talking about. Unless you are a rapist and are speaking from personal experience. In which case you might have a valid argument and I could be wrong.
    Why should I "debate" someone on a topic they know nothing about? You have no experience in this other than jerking off to porn.

    I have worked in rape centers, prisons and halfway houses. Most rapists stalk their victim before attacking. Many rape several women. A large number of rapists has issues in their past that have caused them to hate women. Some come from bad marriages or bad relationships. Others were sexually abused as a child.

    Women dress like women. If puritanical American men weren't so uptight about boobs (which I know many of you are) and other body parts, they could actually walk down a street and not think about women as sex objects.

    If anyone wants to know what rape is about, go volunteer in a rape crisis center. Go talk with police officers who investigate rapes.

    Darin, if you can stop thinking with your dick long enough to post a valid reply, go ahead. That will prove your point right there.
    I am not sure what your point is.

    Rape for any reason is terrible, harms victims and is always wrong. Which is why laws put such people into lock up.

    I am not sure lock up should be the right punishment. Seems to me part of your argument is over what the rapist believes. Perhaps said rapist should be put where skilled people can alter the mind. Even if about sex, it is wrong.

    This country relies on jail too much it seems to me.

    Alternatives must exist given other large countries keep fewer in jail than this country does.

    Don't we lead the world in convicts?

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