Wide range of potential outcomes on gay marriage

[Robert A Whit]

Uh it, unfortunately, was voted on by both the Senate and House and signed into law and legal challenges, unfortunately, fell short.

Republicans were shut out of the legislative process. All one had to do to see it happening was watch CSPAN. Even doubters today can still view those bans of republicans in both houses.

The Supreme court ruled we need not opt in that should we opt out, a tax can be levied. But does that mean I must agree?

My other point is that the public was totally ignored by the Democrats. ACA as I understand this is still not popular with the public.

[fj1200]

Republicans were shut out...

That's what happens when you're in the minority. Your point is moot.

[Robert A Whit]

That's what happens when you're in the minority. Your point is moot.

It is not moot since the only point is republicans were shut out. With no remorse, democrats operated as if they were the only party to represent the issues the public cared about. And even here, they ignored the public. If you think that is moot, I don't know what you think things should be like.

[fj1200]

^Anyway...

[Abbey Marie]

Y'know, this is one of the main areas I keep talking about? The government has this tendency to not use the simplest point of argument. Someone up there really needs to just step out and say, "Look, we aren't talking about the covenant of marriage as set by whatever religious institution, we're talking about contracts and census here. This is all paperwork, not a morality play."

Wouldn't that solve up a ton of arguments?

If it's only about contracts and census, who not be happy with civil unions with all the same benefits? But I don't hear them arguing for equal benefits under civil unions. So, there must be another reason.

I'll answer that for you- because what gays really want is to be considered normal. And unfortunately for them, biology, reproduction, and thousands of years of relationships say otherwise. Ironically for them, even if they can "marry", it will amount to only a piece of paper/contract in the end.

[Abbey Marie]

If we are going to restrict marriage to a man and a woman, then we should further define what "a marriage" is.
Meaning you can only get legally married once. After that, you can have a civil union, but not a legal marriage.
I think people's lives get more screwed up with multiple marriages than they ever would with gay marriages.
If you only had one chance to get it right, perhaps you would take more time to consider things.
My husband and I knew each other for seven years before we got married.

The Catholic church has been outlawing second marriages for centuries.

[Abbey Marie]

Liberals generally accept what the voters say too, unless they lose, in which case they seek out activist courts/judges. A shame that a handful of individuals can override what the majority of states and voters want, but that's the way we designed the system, unfortunately.

Well, only since John Marshall perverted things.

[Robert A Whit]

The Catholic church has been outlawing second marriages for centuries.

As young as Gabby is, unless she is the great Kreskin, she can't tell her future. She may get what she wants She may get a civil union.

I recall how joyful the actress was when she got academy awards and told her then husband, Jesse James of her love and pride.

Then the roof caved in as she learned he cheated on her.

The lesson learned is one can never be certain the person they married will still be the spouse at a future time.