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    Quote Originally Posted by taft2012 View Post
    Well, in case no one's explained it to you, playing with firecrackers outside Old Man Taylor's window with your friends doesn't quite rise to the level of global political/military positioning.

    Those who have shared your thoughts of smug superiority, and sat back and watched imperialists swallow huge swaths of the globe, invariably wound up regretting it.
    Does it work if you walk-up on a group of men smoking weed?!?
    And One of them says. "Everyone else was doing it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by taft2012 View Post
    The traditional claptrap of the isolationist dreamers.
    This 1933 claptrap was proven folly within 8 years, forget about its relevance or applicability today.
    So if one war it legit it makes all the rest legit too? I don't think so.

    And it applies more after WW2, and even more after the USSR fell.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Does it work if you walk-up on a group of men smoking weed?!?
    And One of them says. "Everyone else was doing it."
    Why is everything about weed with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    So if one war it legit it makes all the rest legit too? I don't think so.

    And it applies more after WW2, and even more after the USSR fell.
    We could have entered WWII earlier, and saved countless lives and destruction. However, your ilk would have been screeching "Illegitimate War! Illegitimate War!"

    Rational people have learned from the past. If the war is heading towards our doorstep, there's no need to wait until it gets here. Better to go out and confront it head on.

    As the world continues to shrink, isolationism becomes as disproven a theory as socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taft2012 View Post
    Why is everything about weed with you?


    taft. Looks like the POTHEAD theory has now gone FULL CIRCLE. They can hand it out, but can't take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taft2012 View Post
    Why is everything about weed with you?
    LOL Ok that was was a good one.

    Buuut Lets just see who's the next person to bring up weed in on the board?


    Quote Originally Posted by taft2012 View Post
    We could have entered WWII earlier, and saved countless lives and destruction. However, your ilk would have been screeching "Illegitimate War! Illegitimate War!"

    Rational people have learned from the past. If the war is heading towards our doorstep, there's no need to wait until it gets here. Better to go out and confront it head on.

    As the world continues to shrink, isolationism becomes as disproven a theory as socialism.
    Again you haven't answered the question. Does One legit war justify all the rest?

    ANd By the way Paton could have ended the war earlier as well but that didn't happen
    And the train track to the death camps weren't bombed,
    And IBM and Ford motor corporation -among others- supplied the Axis powers with tools of war before AND during the war.

    to name a few thing that could have been done to make that war less severe.

    And how wars has Switzerland been in lately? since they are "isolationist" and the world has shrunk so much.

    How many invasions has China done in since they are also "Isolationist".
    Compare that to our record.
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    By Revelarts: ANd By the way Paton could have ended the war earlier as well but that didn't happen
    And the train track to the death camps weren't bombed,
    And IBM and Ford motor corporation -among others- supplied the Axis powers with tools of war before AND during the war.
    When you get free time, get some river rocks you can easily handle. Put up some target on a remote road by the River and as you pass a target you put up at some high speed, try hitting the target with rocks. if you manage to hit the target one time, you will maybe appreciate what it was like to bomb from a moving airplane flying probably over 200 mph at the time of the drop. Have someone else drive you while you try to hit the target.

    Today the systems currently on airplanes make this taxk a piece of cake. Not so during Patton's era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert A Whit View Post
    When you get free time, get some river rocks you can easily handle. Put up some target on a remote road by the River and as you pass a target you put up at some high speed, try hitting the target with rocks. if you manage to hit the target one time, you will maybe appreciate what it was like to bomb from a moving airplane flying probably over 200 mph at the time of the drop. Have someone else drive you while you try to hit the target.

    Today the systems currently on airplanes make this taxk a piece of cake. Not so during Patton's era.
    It's much easier now than then no doubt. but they did bomb raillines, railway stations, roads and bridges all over Europe. I don't think the camps rail systems were ever even targeted though.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Again you haven't answered the question. Does One legit war justify all the rest?
    It's a silly question not worth addressing, but if your panties are going to remain wadded until answered, "NO"... there is no logical equation that applies legitimacy across the board. I can explain each and every one, but I'm not here to author a history text.



    And how wars has Switzerland been in lately? since they are "isolationist" and the world has shrunk so much.
    Not the best example since they're not a world power. However, since you brought them up, how do you suppose the world would have fared if everyone followed Switzerland's example in WWII?

    How many invasions has China done in since they are also "Isolationist".
    Well let's see.

    We can obviously start with Taiwan, which they attempted several invasions of, and even had a 20 years artillery shelling war with.

    Then we can move on to Tibet, which they annexed.

    And of course, Korea.

    Then there was the war with India.

    Then they had military incursions into the Soviet Union and Vietnam.

    And most recently they've been saber rattling with the Philippines over the Spratly Islands.

    That's off the top of my head... am I missing any?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    It's much easier now than then no doubt. but they did bomb raillines, railway stations, roads and bridges all over Europe. I don't think the camps rail systems were ever even targeted though.
    Also, they did not have liberal Uriah Heep sobsisters wringing their hands in anguish all over the media about every incident of collateral damage, of which there was quite a lot during WWII.

    "ZOMG! Allied bombers were attempting to bomb a German munitions factory, but some shells landed in a park across the street, totally wiping out a family of ducks nesting adjacent to the pond. When will these allied abuses come to an end?"

    or more recently, during the first Gulf War ....

    "ZOMG! American bombers wiped out a 'baby milk factory' in Baghdad."
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    LOL Ok that was was a good one.

    Buuut Lets just see who's the next person to bring up weed in on the board?




    Again you haven't answered the question. Does One legit war justify all the rest?

    ANd By the way Paton could have ended the war earlier as well but that didn't happen
    And the train track to the death camps weren't bombed,
    And IBM and Ford motor corporation -among others- supplied the Axis powers with tools of war before AND during the war.

    to name a few thing that could have been done to make that war less severe.

    And how wars has Switzerland been in lately? since they are "isolationist" and the world has shrunk so much.

    How many invasions has China done in since they are also "Isolationist".
    Compare that to our record.

    Rev. If you are going to try to convince all of us how intelligent you are concerning History. The least you could do
    is spell PATTON's name correctly. But then. Why would someone so smart, and intelligent need to bother with
    accuracy of any kind? Ya know? Like facts that cannot be disputed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    ...is spell PATTON's name correctly.
    "Gobbles" agrees with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    "Gobbles" agrees with this.

    FJ. You're just upset that your last name is used, and it doesn't matter how anyone spells it. Your hypocrisy, and double standards precede you here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    FJ. You're just upset that your last name is used, and it doesn't matter how anyone spells it. Your hypocrisy, and double standards precede you here.
    I didn't see Adonis up there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I didn't see Adonis up there.

    Who mentioned being Gay? Unless you just opened the closet door.
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