and back on topic we go...
and back on topic we go...
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
You went after me in public. Keep in mind I addressed Glockmail and discussed our part of the topic.
Let me remind us all that the topic was over problems with automobiles. Glock and I discussed problems.
I shall wait to see if the same public treatment is given to him is all I am saying. As it stands, I suspect he thinks you approve what he says. I can't say for certain though.
Last edited by Robert A Whit; 04-24-2013 at 03:19 PM.
You've never heard of architectural engineering? Structural engineering? Mechanical, electrical, plumbing (MEP) engineering?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architectural_engineering
Yes, and I've been involved at one time or another in all of those. In a building project, the architect is the lead designer. Per your examples:
- He tells us where the urinals are to be placed. A mechanical engineer will put together a schematic drawing showing the plumbing, usually an isometric. It has few dimensions, if any. A contractor, in this case a plumber, will then install the fixtures according to the architectural plans, then plumb up to them. Most plumbers will tell the architect: 'hey dummy, are you sure you want this here?" But others will install it exactly per plan, then get paid for a change order when the architect finds his mistake and makes a change.
- Similar with the door handle, except it would be done by a carpenter. An engineer wouldn't be involved whatsoever.
- Escalator that hits a ceiling, purely an architectural error.
- The kiddie ride? Some ride designer. The engineer who designed the mechanism to run it would probably never see the product plans overall, and wouldn't be in a position to comment on it, never mind change it.
- The disconnected bridge is a photoshop.
- The penis shadows from the bridge railing, purely an architectural form.
- The Tower of Pisa? It was built before the science of engineering was born.
- I don't see any example of structural engineering failures posted here.
Last edited by glockmail; 04-25-2013 at 12:53 PM.
I was once referred to as a 'Petroleum Dispensing Engineer'
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
really? Buildings fall under civil engineering...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_engineering
Engineering has been an aspect of life since the beginnings of human existence. The earliest practice of civil engineering may have commenced between 4000 and 2000 BC in Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia (Ancient Iraq) when humans started to abandon a nomadic existence, creating a need for the construction of shelter. During this time, transportation became increasingly important leading to the development of the wheel and sailing.
Until modern times there was no clear distinction between civil engineering and architecture, and the term engineer and architect were mainly geographical variations referring to the same person, often used interchangeably.[7] The construction of Pyramids in Egypt (circa 2700–2500 BC) might be considered the first instances of large structure constructions. Other ancient historic civil engineering constructions include the Qanat water management system (the oldest older than 3000 years and longer than 71 km,[8]) the Parthenon by Iktinos in Ancient Greece (447–438 BC), the Appian Way by Roman engineers (c. 312 BC), the Great Wall of China by General Meng T'ien under orders from Ch'in Emperor Shih Huang Ti (c. 220 BC)[6] and the stupas constructed in ancient Sri Lanka like the Jetavanaramaya and the extensive irrigation works in Anuradhapura. The Romans developed civil structures throughout their empire, including especially aqueducts, insulae, harbors, bridges, dams and roads.
Last edited by Marcus Aurelius; 04-25-2013 at 01:04 PM.