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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    For being a guest speaker? $250.


    My quilting guilds pay more than that to guest speakers at our meetings! (Plus travel expenses)

    And our speakers aren't anywhere near as well known as Edwards!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post


    My quilting guilds pay more than that to guest speakers at our meetings! (Plus travel expenses)

    And our speakers aren't anywhere near as well known as Edwards!

    Heck - $250 + travel = MORE than enough. ESPECIALLY if the subject is 'poverty'
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Heck - $250 + travel = MORE than enough. ESPECIALLY if the subject is 'poverty'
    Have you ever considered that he got the $55K because the intended audience thought it was worth it? If they hadn't, he wouldn't have been invited to speak there.

    Where's your reverence for the free market now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    Have you ever considered that he got the $55K because the intended audience thought it was worth it? If they hadn't, he wouldn't have been invited to speak there.

    Where's your reverence for the free market now?
    Again with people having trouble following the point.

    (shrug).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Again with people having trouble following the point.

    (shrug).
    And a perfectly valid and relevant point it was too. But I understand; it's inconvenient to the effort to demonize Edwards for accepting a speaker's fee even though there are plenty of others who receive even more (another perfectly relevant and inconvenient truth), so the only thing left is to try to dismiss all those inconvenient truths as somehow irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    And a perfectly valid and relevant point it was too. But I understand; it's inconvenient to the effort to demonize Edwards for accepting a speaker's fee even though there are plenty of others who receive even more (another perfectly relevant and inconvenient truth), so the only thing left is to try to dismiss all those inconvenient truths as somehow irrelevant.
    Look - Imagine me speaking. Right now. Instead of reading, imagine this is my voice. I also included a couple links which may help you.

    "I am speaking VERY SLOWLY now, to help you understand. It is IRONIC that a guy would charge FIFTY-FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS to speak to a publicly-funded School group about POVERTY."

    You and others are bringing up OTHER PEOPLE and THEIR FEES...and YOU have the gall to bring up CAPITALISM and say it's ON POINT? Double-You-tee-EFF?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Look - Imagine me speaking. Right now. Instead of reading, imagine this is my voice. I also included a couple links which may help you.

    "I am speaking VERY SLOWLY now, to help you understand. It is IRONIC that a guy would charge FIFTY-FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS to speak to a publicly-funded School group about POVERTY."

    You and others are bringing up OTHER PEOPLE and THEIR FEES...and YOU have the gall to bring up CAPITALISM and say it's ON POINT? Double-You-tee-EFF?"
    Sorry, but shouting and capitalizing words doesn't make your point valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Again with people having trouble following the point.

    (shrug).

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