Originally Posted by
Drummond
Revelarts, I'm not going to spend a lot of time arguing the toss about this with you. I'll just state my piece in this post .. maybe one or two more afterwards.
Simply .. I couldn't care less whether terrorists suffer torture, or not. WHO CARES IF THEY DO ? THEY ARE TERRORISTS !!!!
they are terrorist suspects. and as a rule Americans are above torture. we claim to better than that.
no cruel and unusual punishment is part of our Constitution.
and as mention before in other thread terrorist , Heretics, murderer whatever the crime as the civilisied people in the conflict, we don't torture.
As the Christian people we don't Torture.
As idiots and emotional barbarians we make excuses for it and clsim it helps because it feeds a bit of vengeance, supposedly, but does ZERO for safety or justice.
Originally Posted by
Drummond
You seem very concerned about their fate, what they could endure. Where in your musings, Revelarts, do you spare a thought FOR THEIR VICTIMS ??
... No. You don't. Do you ?
If you'd read a few of my post you'd know I never want any unborn, elderly, white, black, yellow, Hispanic, Muslim, Buddhist, Pagan Jew, atheist, gay, strait Innocent harmed ever.
and or criminals only in the act or after due process and foreign enemies only if in the act or after a declaration of war by congress. rule of law and all that.
Originally Posted by
Drummond
Trust a Leftie to have more time for fretting about the fate of TERRORISTS, THAN THEIR VICTIMS.
Drummond your view of this issue is so narrow you don't even seem to know how to understand any other positions outside of your own cartoon world view of left and and right. Standing for the law, decency and the rights of all men to you translates into 'your left and you love the terrorist and hate the victims'? That some stupid BS Drummond. If your gonna toss it like that be ready to get it back my friend. It's ridiculous and thickheaded slur. I refuse to have it sent my way again without tossing back a few. You've accuse me of it to many times and it seems your not capable of understanding the facts of the position so i have little option than to believe you are INCAPABLE of it. Don't come my way with the BS line again, it's a lie and i won't be tagged with the slurs anymore just because you've got no basis in reality to make any cogent arguments. And must resort to emotional BS name calling.
Originally Posted by
Drummond
Threads like this have me spitting blood. If terrorists do suffer, then that's fine by me. Let the scum rot in hell.
sorry the facts here make you spit blood.
It should sober you up. but no, you have chosen to believe a position DESPITE ALL ANY ANY FACTS TO THE CONTRARY.
that fact that they admit that it doesn't even work or will cause more harm does not phase you or is not even something that you'd consider might have some bit of truth in it.
Originally Posted by
Drummond
I have one complaint against Gitmo. One only. But I absolutely do have grounds for complaint.
MY COMPLAINT IS THAT THERE AREN'T MORE OF THEM.
If I was Prime Minister of Great Britain, I'd be offering the Americans land, facilities, whatever they wanted, to run some Gitmo-style compounds on British soil. I'd be very happy to. Hell, I'd probably want to run a couple of British ones myself.
And I wouldn't care what they did to get their information. I'd just be happy that the facilities were in operation.
" I wouldn't even care if they got information"
'better methods be d@mned torture um all' RAARRR . laws of heaven and earth be D2mned.
that's a crazy mans position. Not someone who claims to be rational. whoose goal is the safety and peace of his country.
FACTS matter to the rational person.
it's seems it's more like a religion to you. It seems that you think
the enemy is so evil that you'd just want to see some witches... i mean Islamist terrorist burn.
Last edited by revelarts; 04-30-2013 at 03:58 PM.
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