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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Red, If people had not gone to jail because of the kind of torture I'm talking about you might have point. until then , clearly, we are talking about 2 different things. One metaphorical torture, the other actual.

    But it's more saddening to me that our country is so fearful and feels so desperately threatened by a handful of fanatics that some want to give up our reputation and principals forever to employee --and regularly advocate-- practices that we all understood to be barbaric and evil only a few years earlier.
    Yea, just a few fanatics - nothing to worry about. Many in Germany said the same thing about those guys in black uniforms running around beating people up, and pushing the Nazi party agenda


    Last edited by red states rule; 05-01-2013 at 03:00 AM.


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