Edwards charges $55,000 to speak to UC Davis students about poverty

[Birdzeye]

When I start insulting you personally, you may have a case. Right now, your 'argument' that Rudi Giulianni has ANYTHING to do with "The Irony of Edwards taking $55K to speak about POVERTY" is severely lacking. You simply 'saying it does, and that's your opinion' means you are closed-minded and not worth my trouble of trying to teach you. Instead of "Ya know? dmp? You're right. While Rudi doesn't really have two shits to do with the "The Irony of Edwards taking $55K to speak about POVERTY", he does seem to charge a LOT of money - in fact, MOST politicians or notables charge a HUGE amount of money for organizations to hear them blabber..." you get defiant and play the victim. You create BS stories and accounts of being 'bullied' in an attempt to garner sympathy.

Closed minded? Pot, meet kettle.

As for the bullying issue, you ARE behaving like a bully. I merely observed that and said so. I also don't believe in playing victim when confronted by bullying but to fight back. Bullies have a strange habit of getting even more belligerent when their would-be targets actually stand up to them, as you have just proven.

As for the relevance of commenting on Giuliani's higher speaking fees after Edwards has been denounced for accepting a $55K fee, well, some of us have tried to explain that to you, but you just don't get it.

[MtnBiker]

Any report of what John Edwards had to say about poverty?

[Birdzeye]

I have no idea.

[MtnBiker]

Must have been a rather relevant speech.

[Yurt]

That Rudy charges even higher fees than Edwards is very relevant to this thread, which started out with the thread parent getting all bent out of shape over Edwards charging $55K plus expenses.

Maybe the thread parent could suggest what he/she considers a more reasonable fee.

It is "highly" irrelevent.

I will use my example again:

I will charge you $55,000 to tell you how to get out of poverty

Rudy will charge you $100,000 to tell you how to get out of poverty


Are you really telling me that there is NO irony in my offer of $55,000???

[nevadamedic]

Any report of what John Edwards had to say about poverty?

Im sure it is on the net somewhere, maybe at the Universities home page where he gave the speech?

[Yurt]

anybody who makes a million dollars in a year is damned sure getting theirs in an inherently unfair and socially irresponsible way.

But examining this thread one would think that only Edwards greed is objectionable.

Guilianni charges universities 3 times as much. No prob.

Guys make 200 times that ammount/year to chase a ball, no prob.

Lee raymond took a $400 million retirement package, no prob.

EVERY presidential candidate needs to be on a continual circuit making similarly profitable presentations to afford the campaign, no prob.

The school INVITED Edwards to speak at that price, no prob.

But Edwards is a problem, even at bargain rates, because he chooses to use that venue to discuss poverty, after he is invited to do so.

Could ya'll be any more shallow and self serving in your selective judgements?

Off topic, and completely ignores the "topic" of what Edwards was speaking about. You are using false analogy. The "topics" underlying the fees paid are very different to the "topic" Edwards was talking about.

So, stick to the topic.

[loosecannon]

Off topic, and completely ignores the "topic" of what Edwards was speaking about. You are using false analogy. The "topics" underlying the fees paid are very different to the "topic" Edwards was talking about.

So, stick to the topic.

go to hell

[Yurt]

go to hell

What was that for? I was polite in my post.

Anyways, what do you think about this:

It is "highly" irrelevent.

I will use my example again:

I will charge you $55,000 to tell you how to get out of poverty

Rudy will charge you $100,000 to tell you how to get out of poverty


Are you really telling me that there is NO irony in my offer of $55,000?

Thanks

[Joe Steel]

The point is the IRONY of the HUGE fee and the TOPIC. Perhaps he should have spoken about "How to make a KILLING by spouting your opinion"

Irony is an amusing topic for conversation but Edwards is focused on more important issues. Speaking to college students, presumably America's developing leaders, is an important part of what Edwards sees as his mission. He's trying to shape America's attitudes. Reaching young, soon-to-be influential, minds is a very helpful way to do that.

[Birdzeye]

What was that for? I was polite in my post.

Anyways, what do you think about this:

It is "highly" irrelevent.

I will use my example again:

I will charge you $55,000 to tell you how to get out of poverty

Rudy will charge you $100,000 to tell you how to get out of poverty


Are you really telling me that there is NO irony in my offer of $55,000?

Thanks

Saying it's "irrelevant" over and over and over again doesn't make it so. I realize that those of you who are here just to bash Edwards need to make that argument because the fact that Giuliani charges higher speaking fees just shows how asinine your selective outrage over Edwards's fees is.

[Birdzeye]

Irony is an amusing topic for conversation but Edwards is focused on more important issues. Speaking to college students, presumably America's developing leaders, is an important part of what Edwards sees as his mission. He's trying to shape America's attitudes. Reaching young, soon-to-be influential, minds is a very helpful way to do that.

[glockmail]

Dude - Please, Help me understand - I REALLY want to - Help me understand WTF Rudi Giuliani' has to do with "The Irony of Edwards Taking $55000 to talk about POVERTY". Please? Somebody?? I honestly think it ONLY relates in the Minds of LIBS who lack the "I know what is funny" and "I know what is Ironic" gene. There ARE a few libs around here who possess such a gene; however the sad part is, those who seem to be MISSING said gene possess the "Well, I can't defend my position, so I'll just keep re-stating it, and attacking anyone (dmp) who attempts to force-teach me how to stay on-topic" gene.

I'm not going to defend Gulliani's attack of Edwards. Its just a gotcha game at this point.

[Yurt]

Saying it's "irrelevant" over and over and over again doesn't make it so. I realize that those of you who are here just to bash Edwards need to make that argument because the fact that Giuliani charges higher speaking fees just shows how asinine your selective outrage over Edwards's fees is.

Please answer the question:

will use my example again:

I will charge you $55,000 to tell you how to get out of poverty

Rudy will charge you $100,000 to tell you how to get out of poverty


Are you really telling me that there is NO irony in my offer of $55,000?

Thanks

[loosecannon]

Any report of what John Edwards had to say about poverty?

He said it was bad?