How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
Ronald Reagan
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
The VP was one of those who can't distinguish between IN and AT. The VP was wrong.
The school cannot prevent students from praying before the game, however, the school can't legally intitiate it. I personally have no problem at all with students praying. I only have a problem with teachers/school admin/school boards who would use the classroom as an opportunity to proseltyze and/or indoctrinate. I don't take issue with religious symbols at school either as long as the playing field is equal for all religions.
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. -- Susan B. Anthony
Here is a win for the good guys and a well deserved loss for the "offended"
A Texas court judge ruled today that the signs displayed by high school cheerleaders quoting biblical verses were "constitutionally permissible," and that the Kountze High School cheerleaders could continue to display them at the school's football games.
In his ruling, State District Judge Steve Thomas said that no law "prohibits cheerleaders from using religious-themed banners at school sporting events.
"The evidence in this case confirms that religion messages expressed on run-through banners have not created, and will not create, an establishment of religion in the Kountze community."
The ruling ended a controversial chapter in the small community of Kountze, about 95 miles northeast of Houston.
"We're excited, relieved, and glad it's over with," Coti Matthews, mother of one of the cheerleaders, told ABC News.com today.
"We're very thrilled that the judge ruled in our favor that girls will be able to use banners with Scripture during next season's football season," Attorney David Starnes, who represented the squad in court, told ABCNews.com today.
The high school cheerleaders had sued the Kountze Independent School District after after they were told they could no longer display the banners with religious messages over arguments that it violated the First Amendment.
"The response was, this was student led, student initiated, so therefore it was private student speech," Starnes said.
Thomas Brandt, the lead attorney representing the school district, told ABCNews.com, "The school district is in the middle of this debate. They reject both of the extremes. We adopt a middle. ... We think based on the evidence, that after studying the issue, our community was perceiving the ban as hostility toward religion."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-rules...7#.Ua6Sxv3n-M8
How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
Ronald Reagan
I don't believe they are, as the article only noted Muslims being able to do so. Nor has any other article. But it would be a bit dumb to assume something is allowed, simply because something wasn't said saying it wasn't allowed. I guess Christians can have mass prayer over loudspeakers in this particular school too, and prayer lead events in the auditorium, as it doesn't say they didn't ask and it doesn't say it's not allowed. No other school in the nation am I aware of will allow students a break from attending class in order to pray. In fact, this revelation about Muslims being able to do so is the first I've ever heard of any student in a public school being exempt from an amount of class time on order to go pray. Logic would dictate that if it were allowed for other religions, one of hundreds of articles would mention as much.
What I mean to say is that all other forms of religious displays and prayers are kept out of school, except for this instance. To say "Christians are allowed to pray in school too" - when that means they can silently not offend anyone else - is much different than a student being treated like he achieved something and can therefore leave the class to pray as a reward of sorts.
As to what happens to the kids who don't pray - they would stand in the same place whether only Muslims left, or if all those who pray left. I assume the class moves forward, but the students leaving are exempt from that 10 minutes.
The rest is mumbo jumbo and predominance stuff is absurd. When it comes to respecting ones religion and accommodations of one religion - they should all be treated 100% equally.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
And yet there is, forgive me if I laugh at an atheist trying to tell me what I know about my religious habits and upbringing, and also insulting my intelligence by not reading the links I have posted backing up the tradition. And quite frankly, it matters not. Christians also have a tradition of kneeling with their hands crossed and eyes closed, in silent prayer for anywhere from 30 seconds to 5 minutes or longer. So tell me, will this be allowed in the class while the teacher is teaching, or do they get time out of class as well?
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
BB specifically asked for more on this earlier in the thread, and I followed up with yet another link for him to read on it. The fact that you are basically calling me a liar? Sorry if I laugh at the uneducated and uninformed atheist who scowls at everything Christian, even the things he is clueless about.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
As for your repeated posts telling me that I am lying, try reading instead of blurting out garbage. If you're too dense to understand what this all means, and that while not commanded, IS in the bible and IS a tradition for many to pray at specific times. An atheist acting like a scholar on things religious, is, well...
http://prayerfoundation.org/dailyoff...ly_prayers.htm
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
All of you should just STOP. Right where you are. Go back and read all of the dumb stuff you have found so many reasons to argue about on this thread.
At the end of the day. What has any ONE of you accomplished here? Other than making absolute fools out of one-another???
And if you include me. That's fine. The TRUTH has never hurt me, and never will.
I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
So, this is for them.
GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !
I've seen you do this at least a dozen times. People like to debate and we KNOW that very rarely will anyone ever change their mind. But we still debate. Should we ask the same of you when you post incessant stuff about Obama? Do you think you're changing someone's mind when you post? Honestly, I'm not sure what a post like yours is supposed to accomplish here.
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
I think it is absolutely ASTOUNDING that the people who are defending this school's accommodation of Muslim prayer, are the very same people who have continually argued that we should not allow Christian prayer in school. One would think they could be just a tad consistent, to avoid looking hypocritical at least. Probably just another sign of the times in which we live.
After the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box - Author unknown
“Unfortunately, the truth is now whatever the media say it is”
-Abbey
I posted my OPINION jim. That's what YOUR FORUM is for, and how it is supposed to be used.
No. I know I am not changing anyone's mind. That's why, what I said was...MY OPINION.
Further. Please share what ANY POST, or THREAD is supposed to accomplish here?
If I have done it a dozen times before. Count this as 13.
P.S. You normally WARN me about arguments being taken to the CAGE.
I merely used your tactic of telling people about the arguments.
Last edited by aboutime; 06-04-2013 at 05:47 PM.
I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
So, this is for them.
GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !