Edwards charges $55,000 to speak to UC Davis students about poverty

[loosecannon]

Are you really telling me that there is NO irony in my offer of $55,000?

Thanks

Not much. There is more alumimoney

(an alchemists joke; don't expect to get it unless you are in the biz)

[Yurt]

Not much. There is more alumimoney

(an alchemists joke; don't expect to get it unless you are in the biz)

*admits, not in the biz*

So can I charge someone you know who is in poverty between $55,000 and $100,000 to get out of poverty and you won't mind?

[loosecannon]

*admits, not in the biz*

So can I charge someone you know who is in poverty between $55,000 and $100,000 to get out of poverty and you won't mind?

(Pssst, the world bank has that market cornered)

And neither Guillianni or Edwards did that.

They were speaking at universities not refugee camps.

[Yurt]

(Pssst, the world bank has that market cornered)

And neither Guillianni or Edwards did that.

They were speaking at universities not refugee camps.

Would you mind answering this:

will use my example again:

I will charge you $55,000 to tell you how to get out of poverty

Rudy will charge you $100,000 to tell you how to get out of poverty


Are you really telling me that there is NO irony in my offer of $55,000?

Thanks

Since you have not said there is irony in my post, I am only left so suppose you mean so. Therefore, you have no problem with the actual fact(s) of my scenario.

Never claimed either "cornered" the market. You are again, using logical fallacies.

I would be interested if you could actually, actually, answer directly, my question above.

Thanks.

[Baron Von Esslingen]

Did you read a transcript of the speech he gave, Yurt? Are you so cocksure that Edwards' speech was about "how to get out of poverty"? If you believe, that you are wrong. Here is the news article about the speech right after it was given. Note the frequent references to poverty and how to "get out of it."

Peter Hecht
Sacramento Bee
Jan 9, 2006
Former presidential candidate John Edwards called Monday for a "substantial" reduction in American troops in Iraq, arguing that the presence of U.S. forces is "feeding the insurgency" and sending the wrong message that the Iraqi people aren't in charge of their own country.

Edwards, who spoke at UC Davis Mondavi Center for the Performing Arts, told reporters beforehand he believes the United States should draw down its forces in Iraq "to send a clear, unmistakable signal to the world that we intend to leave, to permit the Iraqis to govern themselves and provide their own security."

Edwards, a former U.S. Senator from North Carolina, was the Democratic Party's vice presidential candidate in 2004.

He is currently director of the Center on Poverty, Work and Opportunity at the University of North California.

He said he has made no decision on whether he will be a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2008. He said he has been too consumed with his wife battle with breast cancer to ponder his political future.

He said Elizabeth Edwards has completed treatments and is now cancer-free, "knock on wood."

For now, Edwards said, he is consumed by his effort to draw renewed attention to poverty in America.

He advocated an increase in the federal minimum wage of $5.15 an hour, providing housing vouchers to help working families move into better neighborhoods with better schools and increased assistance to enable more lower-income residents to attend college.

Apparently, someone wanted to make a big hullabaloo about Edwards taking a fee to speak to a college. Somehow, some moron got it in his mind that if you want to speak about the subject of poverty that you have to accept poverty wages or you are a hypocrite. What Bullshit.

First, the guy wasn't a political candidate and he has the right to ask for whatever kind of fee he wants. Rudy does and no one bats an eye. Maybe because Rudy doesn't give a flying fuck about helping impoverished Americans that he doesn't get slapped down for his fees or get called a hypocrite.

Second, the speech was a wide ranging speech that focused more on issues of the day and not "how to get out of poverty."

Third, was what he did illegal? No. UC Davis would not have paid for him to come and speak if they did not think he was worth it.

This is just more hyperbole, sound and fury signifying nothing.

[stephanie]

Did you read a transcript of the speech he gave, Yurt? Are you so cocksure that Edwards' speech was about "how to get out of poverty"? If you believe, that you are wrong. Here is the news article about the speech right after it was given. Note the frequent references to poverty and how to "get out of it."



Apparently, someone wanted to make a big hullabaloo about Edwards taking a fee to speak to a college. Somehow, some moron got it in his mind that if you want to speak about the subject of poverty that you have to accept poverty wages or you are a hypocrite. What Bullshit.

First, the guy wasn't a political candidate and he has the right to ask for whatever kind of fee he wants. Rudy does and no one bats an eye. Maybe because Rudy doesn't give a flying fuck about helping impoverished Americans that he doesn't get slapped down for his fees or get called a hypocrite.

Second, the speech was a wide ranging speech that focused more on issues of the day and not "how to get out of poverty."

Third, was what he did illegal? No. UC Davis would not have paid for him to come and speak if they did not think he was worth it.

This is just more hyperbole, sound and fury signifying nothing.

Wellllllll. why should he charge anything...
It's NOT LIKE HE NEEDS THE MONEY.......
But as all us little peons out here know....
Edwards is a two faced hypocrite......
He uses Class Warfare(poverty) only for his campaign, but he sure as hell doesnt live it.......

And people fall for it...

[Baron Von Esslingen]

Wellllllll. why should he charge anything...
It's NOT LIKE HE NEEDS THE MONEY.......

Maybe RUDY should speak for free and Cheney give back all his Halliburton money. When that happens, let me know. Then I'll suggest that Edwards should cut his speaking fees.

But as all us little peons out here know....
Edwards is a two faced hypocrite......

"little peons" being the operative words in that whine

He uses Class Warfare(poverty) only for his campaign, but he sure as hell doesnt live it.......

And people fall for it...

He DID live but then you wouldn't know about that or his family history. He was the first one in his family to go to college and the first one to go to law school. He's supposed to actually BE poor so he can speak about them? What a load of crap.

Now that he is successful, he's supposed to give it all away because he cares about what happens to the poor, because you have some distorted notion that a rich person could not possibly care about what happens to the less fortunate among us? Careful, deary, your Social Darwinism is showing again.

Class warfare? Shit, the Republicans have been conducting Class Warfare for three decades now. Their so-called Christianity is nothing more than "I've got mine, good luck with you getting yours" and a prime example of "Survival Of The Fittest" that is the neocon mantra when it comes to anyone that doesn't hand over large sums of campaign contributions. The very idea that the poor could actually do better for themselves and take a larger piece of the pie scares the shit out of Republicans which is why they hate them so much and do everything they can to keep them poor. They are easier to exploit that way.

[nevadamedic]

I think any candidate Republican or Democrat that speaks at any School or University should not charge money, that is not right. I could understand for maybe the travel expense and hotel and food, but nothing else.

[stephanie]

Maybe RUDY should speak for free and Cheney give back all his Halliburton money. When that happens, let me know. Then I'll suggest that Edwards should cut his speaking fees.



"little peons" being the operative words in that whine



He DID live but then you wouldn't know about that or his family history. He was the first one in his family to go to college and the first one to go to law school. He's supposed to actually BE poor so he can speak about them? What a load of crap.

Now that he is successful, he's supposed to give it all away because he cares about what happens to the poor, because you have some distorted notion that a rich person could not possibly care about what happens to the less fortunate among us? Careful, deary, your Social Darwinism is showing again.

Class warfare? Shit, the Republicans have been conducting Class Warfare for three decades now. Their so-called Christianity is nothing more than "I've got mine, good luck with you getting yours" and a prime example of "Survival Of The Fittest" that is the neocon mantra when it comes to anyone that doesn't hand over large sums of campaign contributions. The very idea that the poor could actually do better for themselves and take a larger piece of the pie scares the shit out of Republicans which is why they hate them so much and do everything they can to keep them poor. They are easier to exploit that way.

Rudy and rest...aren't running a campaign on...I can fix poverty, cause I lived it...
Well hell...why shouldn't he give all his away...Isn't that what a good little socialist does...
Oh I forget.......it's only the little peons who are suppose to do that.

[Baron Von Esslingen]

Rudy and rest...aren't running a campaign on...I can fix poverty, cause I lived it...

Pfeesh..
Reminds of that Steve Martin movie...

I Grew up a poor black man....

That's because Rudy and the rest could give a rat's ass about anyone other than their rich Republican friends. Edwards isn't disqualified because he made something for himself. Only the most narrow minded would believe that.

You watch too many movies. It's giving you a distorted view of the world. Next you'll be telling me that a robot from the future that is almost indestructable is the governor of California.

[nevadamedic]

Rudy and rest...aren't running a campaign on...I can fix poverty, cause I lived it...
Well hell...why shouldn't he give all his away...Isn't that what a good little socialist does...
Oh I forget.......it's only the little peons who are suppose to do that.

Dont worry about him Steph, hes obviously not to bright. As reguards to the Steve Martin movie, The Jerk I think is one of his best movies along with Planes, Trains and Automobiles....

[stephanie]

That's because Rudy and the rest could give a rat's ass about anyone other than their rich Republican friends. Edwards isn't disqualified because he made something for himself. Only the most narrow minded would believe that.

You watch too many movies. It's giving you a distorted view of the world. Next you'll be telling me that a robot from the future that is almost indestructible is the governor of California.

You caught my post before I edited it...But..

Now that you mention Robots...

Didn't the Governator...play one..So it is Coming true.....

[Baron Von Esslingen]

You caught my post before I edited it...But..

Now that you mention Robots...

Didn't the Governator...play one..So it is Coming true.....

"play" being the important word there

[Baron Von Esslingen]

Dont worry about him Steph, hes obviously not to bright. As reguards to the Steve Martin movie, The Jerk I think is one of his best movies along with Planes, Trains and Automobiles....

Yeah, I'm not too bright. Who posted two sentences and made a spelling error in each one? Dimbulb.

[nevadamedic]

Yeah, I'm not too bright. Who posted two sentences and made a spelling error in each one? Dimbulb.

Who cares about a spelling error.