So I just ask The you, you are against the thesis of "two states for two peoples," waited but still no answer. Conclusion: You do not want to answer. This implies that you do not want Israel to leave the occupied territories, the territory on which the Palestinians are living without any rights. These people are not citizens of Israel, they have no one at all! Israel has a right strong thanks to the U.S., but the question is how long can this continue? U.S. block all decisions of the Council UN Security and Compliance, supporting Israel in its aggressive intentions of violating international legal and moral norms, and the case with the "Mavi Marmara" only confirms this.
As it has been pointed out to you before..The Mavi Marmara incident was conducted LEGALLY in accordance with international law and the Treaty of Paris 1856, Hague Convention of 1907, and the San Remo Manual.
To continue to try and make it seem illegal is intellectually dishonest of you. In other words... You are propagating a LIE.
You know, the last time I was in Germany and saw a man standing above everybody else, we ended up disagreeing.
Captain America
Interesting question but the problem is that they are in no position to be able to govern effectively. I'd guess that there is not one part of society that is ready to be an independent state and they're regressing in that ability. The more relevant question is when CAN there be two states?
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You know, the last time I was in Germany and saw a man standing above everybody else, we ended up disagreeing.
Captain America
And THIS is what the so called debate was really all about. I spotted in his commentary to Reagan. Reagan decided to take a total different path then he wants me to say he won the debate.
Since Reagan punted, let me take this guy on.
1. Bush tried to allow grown ups settle this rather than make it the job of America. The Arabs peace plan in my view was a good foundation. Arafat was in it for the money he got.
2. Since when is it our job to set these two groups down?
3. As to Palestine, maybe it has been recognized and I am just ignorant. I plan to check though.
4. Obama has no chance to resolve this. And believe me, the man is inept. Counting on him amounts to you counting on a very inexperienced man who never should have been president. He never was qualified.
5. You do not understand the Bush way of war. Bush helped the free Afghanis kick out the Taliban and at the same time move out Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda was no friend to the Afghani people. And the Taliban were despots. You are not reading the correct books to learn the Bush way of war. Bush entire mission was to free people but not make them believe our forces were there to harm them. We wanted out of Afghanistan almost immediately as we did with Iraq. We had peace in Iraq for most of a year and then all hell broke out. Notice we are gone but the hell continues.
6. Actually it was Afghani forces that got Bin Laden to leave Afghanistan but Americans used the largest bombs other than nuclear we had and tried to locate him to kill him. Those mountains are so wild and steep that goats live there with ease but troops are not superman. Even the Afghan forces did not want to enter Tora Bora.
7. Bush did not wage war to help Israel. Matter of fact, check all wars Israel has been in and they easily won all of them.
8. I see nothing done by Obama to force you to conclude he is helping the problems in that area.
And finally, your arguments make little sense to this reader.
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And THIS is what the so called debate was really all about. I spotted in his commentary to Reagan. Reagan decided to take a total different path then he wants me to say he won the debate.
Since Reagan punted, let me take this guy on.
1. Bush tried to allow grown ups settle this rather than make it the job of America. The Arabs peace plan in my view was a good foundation. Arafat was in it for the money he got.
2. Since when is it our job to set these two groups down?
3. As to Palestine, maybe it has been recognized and I am just ignorant. I plan to check though.
4. Obama has no chance to resolve this. And believe me, the man is inept. Counting on him amounts to you counting on a very inexperienced man who never should have been president. He never was qualified.
5. You do not understand the Bush way of war. Bush helped the free Afghanis kick out the Taliban and at the same time move out Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda was no friend to the Afghani people. And the Taliban were despots. You are not reading the correct books to learn the Bush way of war. Bush entire mission was to free people but not make them believe our forces were there to harm them. We wanted out of Afghanistan almost immediately as we did with Iraq. We had peace in Iraq for most of a year and then all hell broke out. Notice we are gone but the hell continues.
6. Actually it was Afghani forces that got Bin Laden to leave Afghanistan but Americans used the largest bombs other than nuclear we had and tried to locate him to kill him. Those mountains are so wild and steep that goats live there with ease but troops are not superman. Even the Afghan forces did not want to enter Tora Bora.
7. Bush did not wage war to help Israel. Matter of fact, check all wars Israel has been in and they easily won all of them.
8. I see nothing done by Obama to force you to conclude he is helping the problems in that area.
And finally, your arguments make little sense to this reader.
Freeing over 50 million humans is a fine accomplishment.
Now to you.
What good has Obama done for you or the Israelis or the Palestinians
And what has Obama done for America?
I am aware he loves talking but his actions do not match his words.
I welcome the democracy that provides freedom of the individual, but not all people have grown to its adoption. Moreover, I believe that it is impossible to bring democracy to the people of the bayonets of the marines, who does not understand it. Every people must mature to democracy without military intervention from outside. And the case with Iraq is a good example of that. Also, the example of Russia, the Russian people have tried the taste of democracy and abandoned it, and the reason is in the mentality of the people. I have an article about it, which was later placed.
As for Obama, I believe in his sincere intention to put an end to the Arab-Israeli conflict, which could otherwise turn into a tragedy for Israel. That's the way the world should pay for everything, and the more put off reckoning, the heavier it is.
After Rabin was killed, no one remembers the peace process.
Actually both @SassyLady and I demonstrated some remember plenty.
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