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    Default CNN raises alarm over Ted Cruz eligibility

    Can you believe this CNN a news network that never even mentioned Obama's right to run other than to make fun of the birthers are now worried about Ted Cruz , man this guy must have them worried or is it tit for tat , either way what nerve this station has to even comment

    CNN, which like other establishment media outlets largely has ignored questions about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility, suddenly is concerned about whether Republican Sen. Ted Cruz would qualify for the Oval Office.
    After noting that several constitutional law experts believe Cruz would be eligible, Wolf Blitzer and Athena Jones pointed out the firebrand who has challenged the Internal Revenue Service and Obama’s political appointees “wasn’t born in the United States.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/cnn-raise...z-eligibility/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    Can you believe this CNN a news network that never even mentioned Obama's right to run other than to make fun of the birthers are now worried about Ted Cruz , man this guy must have them worried or is it tit for tat , either way what nerve this station has to even comment

    CNN, which like other establishment media outlets largely has ignored questions about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility, suddenly is concerned about whether Republican Sen. Ted Cruz would qualify for the Oval Office.
    After noting that several constitutional law experts believe Cruz would be eligible, Wolf Blitzer and Athena Jones pointed out the firebrand who has challenged the Internal Revenue Service and Obama’s political appointees “wasn’t born in the United States.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/cnn-raise...z-eligibility/


    Jeff. Another GREAT reason to STOP watching, and listening to CNN. Don'tcha think?

    I haven't watched that station since September 11th, 2001.
    I heard how much they were able to patronize their listeners, over, and over again.
    And that's where I drew the line.
    CNN is, and always has been "THE CLINTON NEWS NETWORK"
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    So, this is for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius View Post
    I haven't watched them in god knows how long
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Kat I wonder why they never had that conversation over Obama ? Never mind I already know
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Jeff. Another GREAT reason to STOP watching, and listening to CNN. Don'tcha think?

    I haven't watched that station since September 11th, 2001.
    I heard how much they were able to patronize their listeners, over, and over again.
    And that's where I drew the line.
    CNN is, and always has been "THE CLINTON CASTRO NEWS NETWORK"
    There, fixed it for ya'! Does anyone remember which dictator traded favorable coverage for access with CNN?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    There, fixed it for ya'! Does anyone remember which dictator traded favorable coverage for access with CNN?

    Didn't need fixing. It's always gonna be the CLINTON network to me.
    Just watch how much more it becomes dedicated to Hillary in the coming months, and years.
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
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    He admits to being born in Canada therefor he can't run. I'd like to see him run, but those are the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigg View Post
    He admits to being born in Canada therefor he can't run. I'd like to see him run, but those are the rules.

    Agreed!

    Constitutionally:
    Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1
    No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.
    Term limit amendment - US Constitution, Amendment XXII, Section 1 – ratified February 27, 1951
    No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.


    AND...

    AMENDMENT XXII

    SECTION 1.

    No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
    SECTION 2.

    This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigg View Post
    He admits to being born in Canada therefor he can't run. I'd like to see him run, but those are the rules.
    People seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of who can and cannot be President.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...the-us/275469/

    But what won't prevent Cruz from becoming president is his place of birth. Cruz was born in Calgary, Canada, while his parents were living there. His father is now an American citizen, but was not at the time; his mother, however, was born in the United States.

    Helpfully, the Congressional Research Service gathered all of the information relevant to Cruz's case a few years ago, at the height (nadir?) of Obama birtherism. In short, the Constitution says that the president must be a natural-born citizen. "The weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion appears to support the notion that 'natural born Citizen' means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship 'at birth' or 'by birth,' including any child born 'in' the United States, the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parents who has met U.S. residency requirements," the CRS's Jack Maskell wrote. So in short: Cruz is a citizen; Cruz is not naturalized; therefore Cruz is a natural-born citizen, and in any case his mother is a citizen. You can read the CRS memo at bottom; here's a much longer and more detailed 2011 version.
    Here's a link to the CRS pdf on Presidential eligibility.

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42097.pdf

    It is my understanding that his mother, born in the US, met the U.S. residency requirements at the time of his birth. Therefore, he is, apparently, eligible to become President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigg View Post
    He admits to being born in Canada therefor he can't run. I'd like to see him run, but those are the rules.
    I don't think anyone knows what the rules actually are. There's never been a firm definition of what a natural-born citizen is. Since his mother is an American citizen, Cruz has some leeway to assume he is as well even if he was born in Canada.
    The Left will surely ask this question if for nothing else than to thumb their noses at the birthers.

    I wish the SCOTUS would make a final ruling on this, but only when it has a super majority of solid conservatives

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Agreed!

    Constitutionally:
    Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1
    No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.
    Term limit amendment - US Constitution, Amendment XXII, Section 1 – ratified February 27, 1951
    No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.


    AND...

    AMENDMENT XXII

    SECTION 1.

    No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
    SECTION 2.

    This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.
    Then can I assume that you believe John McCain was not eligible to run for President? He was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius View Post
    Then can I assume that you believe John McCain was not eligible to run for President? He was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

    The difference being that John McCain was born on a military base which is considered American soil no matter where it is. So yes, McCain was eligible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    Can you believe this CNN a news network that never even mentioned Obama's right to run other than to make fun of the birthers are now worried about Ted Cruz , man this guy must have them worried or is it tit for tat , either way what nerve this station has to even comment
    George Orwell referred to that as "doublethink".

    "We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia. We are not at war with Eastasia."

    He called today's liberals and their short-attention-span supporters perfectly.
    "The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com

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