CNN raises alarm over Ted Cruz eligibility

[Marcus Aurelius]

The difference being that John McCain was born on a military base which is considered American soil no matter where it is. So yes, McCain was eligible.

technically, that is incorrect. Embassies and consulates, yes. Military bases, no.


EDIT:

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86755.pdf

Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad
and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities abroad are not part of the United
States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the
premises of such a facility is not born in the United States and does not
acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.

[Trigg]

ok I was slightly wrong about that.

McCain was still eligible to run though

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/joh...l-eligibility/

But McCain is a natural-born citizen, even though he was not born within this country’s borders, since his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. As a congressional act stated in 1790:

Congress: "And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens."

Going back to the argument about Obama, a lot of the talk had to do with his mother being under 21 when she had him and then taking him out of the country.

So, how old was Cruz's mother when she had him, and how long did he live outside of the country?

[logroller]

I think CNN is decent news network. If anything they present a favorable position on cruz's eligibility-- that since his mother was American, he is entitled to us citizenship by birthright. Ill have to check the law on such to see if uses something to the effect of shall be a citizen, as opposed to may be. But as mentioned, the constitution gives no definition of what is considered natural-born. It would make sense to me that natural-born is differentiated from naturalized immigrant.

[Thunderknuckles]

ok I was slightly wrong about that.

McCain was still eligible to run though

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/joh...l-eligibility/




Going back to the argument about Obama, a lot of the talk had to do with his mother being under 21 when she had him and then taking him out of the country.

So, how old was Cruz's mother when she had him, and how long did he live outside of the country?

Nice find on the fact check Trigg. Doesn't that mean Cruz is eligible?

[logroller]

In think this is the law that enabled McCain to be considered natural born. I don't think Cruz qualifies though.


INA: ACT 301 - NATIONALS AND CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AT BIRTH




Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401] The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:


(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;


(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;


(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;


(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;


(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;


(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;




(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669; 22 U.S.C. 288) by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and


(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States. 302 persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899

[aboutime]

technically, that is incorrect. Embassies and consulates, yes. Military bases, no.


EDIT:

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86755.pdf

Marcus. Please take my word for it. I have some experience with this, personally.

Any American born to an American family in the Military, on a U.S. Military base, anywhere in the World IS...A citizen, and considered Natural Born.

[truthmatters]

Your spot on.I called this one when they tried to say McCain was not in the running because if it