Massacre in Kenya

[aboutime]

Alright you guys, this has been interesting, but talk of torturing PUPPIES is getting a little serious

Agreed Larrymc. A terrible metaphor to use. Leave the puppies out of it.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Oh please. He barely even knows what my stance is because once he faces a hint of opposition to his views he goes straight to the "leftie card" and personal jabs and doesn't let go until he just weasels away. As far as his interpretation of "conservatism" it's pretty clear what he is for and that seems to be an unfortunate expansion of state powers over the individual. I can't even imagine that you agree with him on many points because your views are in direct conflict; not giving certain leaders, wink wink nudge nudge, powers that are ripe for abuse.

And FWIW I would have no idea what sort of insight you might get from a private conversation between two people of the same mind that we wouldn't get from scads of posts where he actually faces some opposition to his views.

As if people do not talk more bluntly and often with deeper and better explained convictions in private conversations. Should you ever really get on my short list/(good list) I'd straighten you out in a few pms too. --Tyr

[Drummond]

Alright you guys, this has been interesting, but talk of torturing PUPPIES is getting a little serious

... yes, well. The 'puppy torturing' jibe is a depth that FJ has sunk to in other threads.

No doubt, in future moments of desperation in any other 'debates', we'll see it again ....

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Preferential treatment is IRRELEVANT ?

Is this one of those times when your Leftie thinking gets the better of you ?

Leftie, Bog , LIBERAL -- are taboo words amigo. Try using moderate or progressives or even majestic divine one. The filthy beasts like those words much better. --Tyr

[fj1200]

As if people do not talk more bluntly and often with deeper and better explained convictions in private conversations. Should you ever really get on my short list/(good list) I'd straighten you out in a few pms too. --Tyr

:fingerscrossed:

... yes, well. The 'puppy torturing' jibe is a depth that FJ has sunk to in other threads.

No doubt, in future moments of desperation in any other 'debates', we'll see it again ....

Still don't understand do you? Not surprising.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

:fingerscrossed: .

Great post...

[fj1200]

Great post...

Thank you, it was awesome.

[Arbo]

You're sure of that ?

Not just yes, but YES.

You seem to want to invent this strange 'advantage' that doesn't exist, all the while ignoring what a government does with the sort of powers you want them to have (i.e., abuse them).

[Drummond]

Leftie, Bog , LIBERAL -- are taboo words amigo. Try using moderate or progressives or even majestic divine one. The filthy beasts like those words much better. --Tyr

I'll give it some thought !

How about ... 'Der Fuehrer' .. ?? Does that strike the right note ?

Perhaps if I threw in a qualifier to modify the offending word ? For example .. 'Leftie GIT' ...
... H'MM. Giving it more thought. Though .. I may have to extend my vocabulary ....

Watch this space, folks !

[fj1200]

How about ... 'Der Fuehrer' .. ?? Does that strike the right note ?

It does fit with your untermensch stance.

[Drummond]

Not just yes, but YES.

You seem to want to invent this strange 'advantage' that doesn't exist, all the while ignoring what a government does with the sort of powers you want them to have (i.e., abuse them).

Are you quite sure you don't mean .. YES ?!? Just thought I'd ask ...

More seriously, though, I think you're confirming that there's no real, actual, point in debating with you. I mean ... I've posted a link TWICE now, each time showing you an example of where clear advantage was supplied to a 'suspect' possessing American citizenship. Yet, despite that, you just blithely go on to talk about an advantage 'that doesn't exist'.

... I mean ... REALLY ... what's the point ?? You've been SHOWN you're wrong, REPEATEDLY even, and you just disregard it all ! At the risk of using 'taboo' terminology, don't we see here an example of 'bog standard Leftie' thinking in action .. where the only reality recognised and argued in favour of is a preferred one, and where if reality doesn't serve, fiction WILL ???

This is ridiculous - enough, already !!!

P.S - er'm, if this really is nothing more than an attention span problem of yours, I offer you my sympathy. 'Get well soon', my son ...

[Drummond]

It does fit with your untermensch stance.

Hardly. 'Untermensch' was a fiction originating from Hitler, applied to people completely undeserving of any such categorisation.

However, real life subhumans (i.e terrorists, lacking the humanity to prove they're anything else), well, we see what they get up to, don't we, on a daily basis ....

[Drummond]

Still don't understand do you? Not surprising.

I don't understand puppy torturing ? Well done ... you've found something we can agree on. Indeed, I cannot understand that.

I leave such jibes for you to offer ...

[Arbo]

I've posted a link TWICE now, each time showing you an example of where clear advantage

Perhaps the issues is your understanding of what an 'advantage' is? As stated far too many times already: If a citizen commits an act of terrorism, they will be held accountable. They will not simply 'get away with it' because they are a citizen. What part of that do you not understand?

You've been SHOWN you're wrong, REPEATEDLY even, and you just disregard it all !

You have argued that government should have the ability to strip a citizen of their citizenship. I have shown you time and time again why they can NOT do that (ie, the Constitution), yet you keep on keeping on about it. Sorry, your desires go against our Constitution, deal with it.

[fj1200]

... I mean ... REALLY ... what's the point ?? You've been SHOWN you're wrong, REPEATEDLY even, and you just disregard it all !

But what have you actually shown but a SCOTUS decision that pointed to your "leftie" gibe also being wrong.

... unless you can point to an epidemic of domestic terror being unleashed due to "preferential" treatment...