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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    As promised, I followed up behind you! I hope others will follow suit. Even if only $5, it might be enough to give our new friendly elephant a few apples for the day, or all together it may help these guys care for him, and for future animals they save and/or care for!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    fj ... could you, at least this one time, not look for the rationality in a statement? Did you actually read the article and look at the pictures.

    What I would love to see/hear is how this story touched or didn't touch you. Instead, you are focusing on what someone else says and feels about it. Share your own instead of bisecting another's

    Did you cry?
    Read what you posted, disgusted by the action, didn't watch it, didn't cry. Having said that I didn't see a rational point about profit based on the abhorrent behavior exhibited. "Profiting" from animals does not require torturing elephants or piglets or otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Read what you posted, disgusted by the action, didn't watch it, didn't cry. Having said that I didn't see a rational point about profit based on the abhorrent behavior exhibited. "Profiting" from animals does not require torturing elephants or piglets or otherwise.
    And yet they suffer in innumerable ways. There really is no denying it. If you are unsure, check out some of the posts that our young Irish friend has posted over the years. Ever see the video where the cow too sick to walk was dragged on the ground by a chain from the truck to the slaughterhouse? How about the Rhinos who have their horn removed and are killed to sell to sexually-insecure Asian men? Puppies kept for life in small cages at puppy mills? Chickens de-beaked so they won't mar each other's skin while they are in cramped cages? On and on and on it goes.

    Whether or not profiting from animals requires suffering is moot. The point is that it does end up with them suffering, and it happens everywhere, and almost all the time. Quite a rational point, actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    And yet they suffer in innumerable ways. There really is no denying it. If you are unsure, check out some of the posts that our young Irish friend has posted over the years. Ever see the video where the cow too sick to walk was dragged on the ground by a chain from the truck to the slaughterhouse? How about the Rhinos who have their horn removed and are killed to sell to sexually-insecure Asian men? Puppies kept for life in small cages at puppy mills? Chickens de-beaked so they won't mar each other's skin while they are in cramped cages? On and on and on it goes.

    Whether or not profiting from animals requires suffering is moot. The point is that it does end up with them suffering, and it happens everywhere, and almost all the time. Quite a rational point, actually.
    I've never denied it, I acknowledge it. But you do make a very progressive argument.
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