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    Quote Originally Posted by artur axmann View Post
    I mean calling attacks on military installations in Syria and in Iraq as being those evil hateful monstrous acts of barbarism and turning a blind eye or even encouraging the merciless slaughter of infants in the Gaza strip speaks to the total subservience of our political system

    to the international string pullers ..
    The people in Iraq and Syria are fighting against the evil - while the people in Gaza vote for and support a terrorist group.

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    Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Did anyone ask this father if he supported Hamas and helped vote and keep them in power?
    Yup.

    Fuck with the bull, you get the horn. It's how the world works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Unlike those that they were at war with, they act like human beings?
    Wounded Liberty crew...

    The lesson of the cold-blooded attack on the USS Liberty was that there is nothing the Zionist state might not do, to its friends as well as its enemies, in order to get its own way.

    by Alan Hart

    On Thursday 8 June 1967, Israeli air and naval forces attacked America’s most advanced spy ship, the U.S.S. Liberty, killing 34 of its crew and wounding 174.
    Forty five years on, thanks to the complicity of the mainstream media, the cover up ordered by President Johnson is still in place.
    Two years ago, on New York’s Long Island, I had the pleasure and privilege of being the keynote speaker at the annual dinner of the Liberty Survivors Association. I told them I was aware that if the attack had gone completely according to the plan of the man who ordered it, Israeli Defence Minister Moshe Dayan, none of them would have survived.
    I also told them that although I am an Englishman who had not served in any of his country’s armed services (because conscription was abolished by the time I was old enough to have served), we did have something in common – OUTRAGE that could not be expressed adequately in polite words at the continued suppression in America of the truth about Israel’s attack on the Liberty.
    On the 45th anniversary of that attack, this post is providing the complete text of Chapter Two of the three-volume American edition of my book Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews. The chapter is titled The Liberty Affair – “Pure Murder” on a “Great Day”.
    My American publisher expressed to me the view that it is “the most revealing, the most riveting and the most important chapter in the whole book.” My own view is that it assists real understanding of what the Zionist state of Israel is – a monster beyond control.
    Here is the chapter, complete with source notes.
    Moshe Dayan -- why they whacked the Liberty...

    Israel insisted (as it still does) that its attack on the Liberty was an unfortunate “accident”, a case of “mistaken identity”.
    The attack ought to have been a sensational, headline-grabbing news story, but beyond the fact that an accident had happened and that Israel had apologised, it did not get reported by America’s news organisations. It was too hot an issue for them to handle and pursue. If it had been an Arab attack on an American vessel it would have been an entirely different matter, of course. In that event there would have been saturation coverage with demands for retaliation, with Zionist and other pro-Israeli columnists and commentators setting the pace and tone.
    About the attack and its aftermath – the Johnson administration’s cover-up led by the President himself – retired American Admiral Thomas L. Moorer, who was appointed Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) a month after the incident, was subsequently to say to former U.S. Congressman Paul Findley, “If it was written as fiction nobody would believe it.”[i]
    The attack itself, Admiral Moorer said to Findley, was “absolutely deliberate.” And the cover-up? “The clampdown was not actually for security reasons but for domestic political reasons. I don’t think there is any question about it. What other reasons could there have been? President Johnson was worried about the reaction of Jewish voters.” (For which read, I add, the awesome power of the Zionist lobby and its many stooges in Congress). The former Chairman of the JCS added: “The American people would be god damn mad if they knew what goes on.”[ii]
    As it happened, the institutions of government in America did not succeed in keeping the truth covered up because there were eye-witnesses who would not be silenced. They were the survivors of the Liberty’s crew. The first prime source of the detailed information about the actual attack is the book Assault on the Liberty.[iii] It was written by Lieutenant James M. Ennes. He was the Officer of the Deck on the Liberty throughout the attack.
    On 5 June 1982 there was a reunion of Liberty survivors in the Hotel Washington in Washington D.C. The guest speaker was retired Admiral Moorer. He told the survivors that he had “never been willing to accept the Israeli explanation that it was a case of mistaken identity.” He could not accept that Israeli pilots “don’t know how to identify ships.” It followed, he said, that there “must have been some other motive”, which he was confident “some day will be made public.”[iv]

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    Quote Originally Posted by artur axmann View Post
    I'm not outlining anything.

    It seems one other international geo political expert needs constant clarification as to what I'm asking for.

    Curious question you ask. Care to outline what you mean by it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by artur axmann View Post

    Curious question you ask. Care to outline what you mean by it?
    Obviously you are a jew hater and assume all Americans are muslim hater so why not just say so? You will never see it another way even if someone stated why they felt israel is legitimate. I'm not a jew hater or a muslim hater but if you see one as legit why not the other. If you don't like the jews then so be it but don't hide behind it asking for legitimacy either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Did anyone ask this father if he supported Hamas and helped vote and keep them in power?
    Has anyone asked James Foley's parents who they voted for? just thought i'd ask..

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    Ahhh yes, the old Liberty argument.

    It was a CIA ship parked out there off the coast gathering intelligence. Israel made a big mistake and didn't know it was ours, and apologized profusely for it.

    Friendly fire happens in War Zones, to this very day.

    Next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by artur axmann View Post
    Has anyone asked James Foley's parents who they voted for? just thought i'd ask..
    I was unaware that Mr. Foley was hiding weapons behind himself when attacked. Egads....
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F Buckley, Jr

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    Quote Originally Posted by artur axmann View Post
    Has anyone asked James Foley's parents who they voted for? just thought i'd ask..
    Ok little brown guy, just admit your hatred for jews and be done with it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by artur axmann View Post
    Has anyone asked James Foley's parents who they voted for? just thought i'd ask..
    Common denominator - MUSLIM TERRORISTS

    They are responsible for Foley's death, as well as the deaths in Gaza and so many other places. But I doubt Foley voted in the terrorists, as the dolts in Gaza did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    The people in Iraq and Syria are fighting against the evil - while the people in Gaza vote for and support a terrorist group.
    Ever heard of the IRGUN? run by the great ben gurion. What were they boy scouts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by artur axmann View Post
    Wounded Liberty crew...
    Another subject changer. How about you address the filth that controls things in Gaza, the terrorists, that are responsible for thousands of deaths? Or do you support terrorists over there?

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    Do yourself a favor, Artur, and browse the Israel forum. Many of your questions and statements have already been answered in depth.
    Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum

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    Quote Originally Posted by artur axmann View Post
    Ever heard of the IRGUN? run by the great ben gurion. What were they boy scouts?
    That has what to do with the terrorist shitheads responsible for endless deaths in Gaza? Changing your own subject and running already?

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