Axmann idiot "all in one"

[revelarts]

I could post a picture of Native Americans living in pitiful conditions and squeezed into "camps" with broken treaties and ask legitimacy questions of of the U.S..

upsets people but it's a fact.

could do the same all over the world with various countries set up by colonial powers or even some ancient traditional indigenous peoples.

It's no excuse to treat people like crap but the "legitimacy" question is not a strong point.
It was considered legit when the land was given by the colonial British powers in the Balfour Declaration and the Mandate declared legit by the league of nations.
The subsequent wars instigated against Israel were won by them and therefore they won more land.
"Spoils of war" also legit especially since they were not the aggressors.

And they do have as much right to be there as so-called "Palestinians" if you consider ancestral claims.
they are from there as well.

[Sir Evil]

I could post a picture of Native Americans living in pitiful conditions and squeezed into "camps" with broken treaties and ask legitimacy questions of of the U.S..

upsets people but it's a fact.

Have to admit that I still question your legitimacy revelarts but quite the legitimate point you make!

However artur is a legitimate sack of douche juice so don't anticipate a response any more legitimate than my typical responses and that isn't anything too legitimate.

[artur axmann]

I could post a picture of Native Americans living in pitiful conditions and squeezed into "camps" with broken treaties and ask legitimacy questions of of the U.S..

upsets people but it's a fact.

could do the same all over the world with various countries set up by colonial powers or even some ancient traditional indigenous peoples.

It's no excuse to treat people like crap but the "legitimacy" question is not a strong point.
It was considered legit when the land was given by the colonial British powers in the Balfour Declaration and the Mandate declared legit by the league of nations.
The subsequent wars instigated against Israel were won by them and therefore they won more land.
"Spoils of war" also legit especially since they were not the aggressors.

And they do have as much right to be there as so-called "Palestinians" if you consider ancestral claims.
they are from there as well.

I have to give you an E for effort ,plus it's a good try but sadly ,it's all copy cat propaganda you must've read somewhere.

The British mandate did not prescribe any donation of lands .
The British refused entry to refugee jews for that reason.
The UN denied creation of israel due to its illegality but was pressured by soviets and later by american special interests.
Zionists [terrorists] illegally stormed ashore before independence ,machine gunning helpless arabs. Chasing them off lands and illegally occupying even more territory than they originally had demanded.
There is no legit right for israel to exist in its current state.
No proof that arab countries declared war on Israel.. Some Arab countries ,jordan and syria sent
humanitarian aid . and they were gunned down by the terrorists .

[Sir Evil]

I have to give you an E for effort ,plus it's a good try but sadly ,it's all copy cat propaganda you must've read somewhere.

Well in that case what do you call the shit that you post little adolph?

[artur axmann]

well in that case what do you call the shit that you post little adolph?

history.

[Sir Evil]

history.

history? interesting... And this history lesson that you are providing is just for your own need or just to cover your hatred for the jews?

You are going to have a hard time here if you really feel that you need to educate with the crapola you have been posting.

[Drummond]

... ah ! Another of your 'even-handed', 'hate-free' offerings, Herr Axmann ?

Palestine was never a recognised Nation State. 'Palestinians' may have existed in the region for a substantial period, but they were always little better than squatters leading tribal existences, in bygone days.

These days, of course, they've 'upped their game', and taken it upon themselves to vote a terrorist group into political power over them. Relentless terrorism efforts has been the result .. to which, no less than understandably, Israel has responded as their interest in self-preservation requires.

Ask yourself, Artur Axmann, how many of the 'innocents' in Gaza were willing terrorists or terrorist facilitators. Ask yourself how many attacks were against sites which Hamas were using for their terrorist actions, that absolutely mandating their neutralisation.

Or, 'better yet', don't do any of that, because if you DID, you'd have to start judging the whole situation with uncharacteristic fairness ..

[artur axmann]

history? interesting... And this history lesson that you are providing is just for your own need or just to cover your hatred for the jews?

You are going to have a hard time here if you really feel that you need to educate with the crapola you have been posting.

We know that the Zionist movement is powerful and has had a grip on the West for quite a long time, and we know that its wicked consequences have sent aesthetic terrorism virtually across the world. Hollywood is no exception.For example, at least 200 Hollywood moguls and TV hosts (including Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Sarah Silverman, Roseanne Barr, Bill Maher) have recently signed a petition supporting Israel’s recent genocide.
Yet despite all its messianic power and domination both in Israel and much of the West, the Zionist kingdom is feeling an anti-Zionist storm on the horizon. ]
Israeli historian Ilan Pappe of the University of Exeter has recently argued that
“This Israeli narrative is totally rejected in the world of cyber activism and alternative media. There it seems the condemnation of the Israeli action as a war crime is widespread and consensual.”
J. J. Goldberg of the Jewish Daily Forward has reported,
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08…zionism-rises/

[revelarts]

history.

um not history, revisionist history and propaganda.

look, i'm not one to sugar a nations faults, and i try not to color the facts to suit my position.
But it seems you've deliberately painted Israel in the worse possible light and ignored the facts of the docs and the attacks against Israel in successive conflicts.

"Humanitarian Aid"lol!
Is that what they call rockets from Jordan and tanks from Egypt now?

[Sir Evil]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08…zionism-rises/

Cute chick, is that you?

[tailfins]

Why are you all giving this termite the dignity of a serious response?

[Sir Evil]

Why are you all giving this termite the dignity of a serious response?

nothing serious about my responses, just having fun kicking around the troll...

[Drummond]

We know that the Zionist movement is powerful and has had a grip on the West for quite a long time, and we know that its wicked consequences have sent aesthetic terrorism virtually across the world. Hollywood is no exception.For example, at least 200 Hollywood moguls and TV hosts (including Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Sarah Silverman, Roseanne Barr, Bill Maher) have recently signed a petition supporting Israel’s recent genocide.
Yet despite all its messianic power and domination both in Israel and much of the West, the Zionist kingdom is feeling an anti-Zionist storm on the horizon. ]
Israeli historian Ilan Pappe of the University of Exeter has recently argued that
“This Israeli narrative is totally rejected in the world of cyber activism and alternative media. There it seems the condemnation of the Israeli action as a war crime is widespread and consensual.”
J. J. Goldberg of the Jewish Daily Forward has reported,
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08…zionism-rises/

Good grief. Are we into 'Western Zionist conspiracy' la-la land with this rot ??

Precisely how great is your desire to borrow from 'Mein Kampf', 'Herr Axmann' ?

Let me guess. Bringing this fully up to date - do you subscribe to the Hamas core objective of driving Israel into the sea ? After all .. is it not your position that terrorism can be justified, just so long as it's Jews who are on the receiving end of it ?

Or would you just settle for some concentration camps, and maybe even the revisiting of what you have elsewhere been pleased to call a 'story' ?

So I'll set you this challenge. Be candid. Tell us all - if you had cataclysmic powers to arrange ANYTHING you desired - just what fate you'd want to see visited upon Israel and the Jewish race.

Let's finally see where you're trying to lead us to in your posts. 'Justify' yourself, if you seriously think you can. Let it rip. Give us the truth of you.

[artur axmann]

... ah ! Another of your 'even-handed', 'hate-free' offerings, Herr Axmann ?

Palestine was never a recognised Nation State. 'Palestinians' may have existed in the region for a substantial period, but they were always little better than squatters leading tribal existences, in bygone days.

These days, of course, they've 'upped their game', and taken it upon themselves to vote a terrorist group into political power over them. Relentless terrorism efforts has been the result .. to which, no less than understandably, Israel has responded as their interest in self-preservation requires.

Ask yourself, Artur Axmann, how many of the 'innocents' in Gaza were willing terrorists or terrorist facilitators. Ask yourself how many attacks were against sites which Hamas were using for their terrorist actions, that absolutely mandating their neutralisation.

Or, 'better yet', don't do any of that, because if you DID, you'd have to start judging the whole situation with uncharacteristic fairness ..

Ask yourself, Artur Axmann, how many of the 'innocents' in Gaza were willing terrorists or terrorist facilitators. Ask yourself how many attacks were against sites which Hamas were using for their terrorist actions, that absolutely mandating their neutralisation.

Or, 'better yet', don't do any of that, because if you DID, you'd have to start judging the whole situation with uncharacteristic fairness .

Tallyho to you to..

ASK YOURSELF ,your Lordship the following.
You and your family of small children and a few grannies are home invaded by an armed and dangerous felon ,a bank robber.
And the police arrive to apprehend , would you advise them to just go ahead and demolish your home and lob a grenade into your anteroom just so they can kill the bad guy who had been shooting at them?

I'm sure you would!

[Sir Evil]

Tallyho to you to..

ASK YOURSELF ,your Lordship the following.
You and your family of small children and a few grannies are home invaded by an armed and dangerous felon ,a bank robber.
And the police arrive to apprehend , would you advise them to just go ahead and demolish your home and lob a grenade into your anteroom just so they can kill the bad guy who had been shooting at them?

I'm sure you would!

Kind of a weak analogy but not bad for a little girl...