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    The Christian standard is a simple one to understand. Chastity before marriage and fidelity afterwards.

    Problem is people tend to ignore the standard and not even try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Romans 1:26-27 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another ..

    Here's a hint: When two sentences are joined by the words "likewise" and "also", it means the two ideas containded within are alike. If the men burned in lust for each other, and likewise the women, it doesn't take an English degree to see what it is saying about the women.

    Unless, of course, someone doesn't want to see it. Then all bets are off.
    "Wow. Grasping at straws, are we? lmao."

    Got to be the case when your allies keep prematurely declaring victory, like that "Mission Accomplished" guy...

    BTW, the dictionary says that "likewise" can also mean "similarly." "Similar" is not the same thing as "identical." It doesn't take an English degree to see that, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    The Christian standard is a simple one to understand. Chastity before marriage and fidelity afterwards.

    Problem is people tend to ignore the standard and not even try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by typomaniac View Post
    "Wow. Grasping at straws, are we? lmao."

    Got to be the case when your allies keep prematurely declaring victory, like that "Mission Accomplished" guy...

    BTW, the dictionary says that "likewise" can also mean "similarly." "Similar" is not the same thing as "identical." It doesn't take an English degree to see that, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by typomaniac View Post
    "Wow. Grasping at straws, are we? lmao."

    Got to be the case when your allies keep prematurely declaring victory, like that "Mission Accomplished" guy...

    BTW, the dictionary says that "likewise" can also mean "similarly." "Similar" is not the same thing as "identical." It doesn't take an English degree to see that, either.
    You realize the definition being similiarly or identical doesnt at all change the meaning of the passage dont you? its still saying women on women action is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Cp View Post
    Hmm... tell that to Corinthians:

    1 Corinthians 6

    9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

    I always find it a bit amusing when the ungodly try and lecture us on what is and isn't in the Bible...
    Yup, and I find it troubling that when Christians don't like the Bible as written, they find a different translation. Would you find that translation of the verse in the King James version???
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Cp View Post
    Hmm... tell that to Corinthians:

    1 Corinthians 6

    9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

    I always find it a bit amusing when the ungodly try and lecture us on what is and isn't in the Bible...
    Yup, and I find it troubling that when Christians don't like the Bible as written, they find a different translation to beleive emphatically.

    Would you find that translation of the verse in the King James version???

    How can a book that is constantly being changed be the true word of God????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doniston View Post
    Yup, and I find it troubling that when Christians don't like the Bible as written, they find a different translation to beleive emphatically.

    Would you find that translation of the verse in the King James version???

    How can a book that is constantly being changed be the true word of God????
    How can a retard who doesn't even give a rats' ass about the Bible pretend to care or know what it says in the first place is the better question...

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    You realize the definition being similiarly or identical doesnt at all change the meaning of the passage dont you? its still saying women on women action is wrong.
    Don't you find it strange that, with the Episcopalians ordaining gay bishops and all, you guys are so desperately clinging to a couple of lines out of Romans?

    Your church is going to die if it doesn't adapt to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by typomaniac View Post
    Don't you find it strange that, with the Episcopalians ordaining gay bishops and all, you guys are so desperately clinging to a couple of lines out of Romans?

    Your church is going to die if it doesn't adapt to change.
    Actually quite the opposite. It's going to thrive. THe Episcopalians will be non-existant/irrelevant within a few generations if they keep going the direction they currently are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    Actually quite the opposite. It's going to thrive.
    Hogwash. No institution ever thrives when it starts saying to its members, "Here are a bunch of things you absolutely must agree with us about and can never, ever question."
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    Quote Originally Posted by typomaniac View Post
    Hogwash. No institution ever thrives when it starts saying to its members, "Here are a bunch of things you absolutely must agree with us about and can never, ever question."
    Of course, the Christian Church has been saying for about 2000 years that its members absolutely must agree about, say, the physical resurrection of Christ, and can never, ever question it. And look how horribly it worked out for them.

    As to Missileman's contention: the term "abusers of themselves with mankind," found in 1 Corinthians 6:9 directly after "effeminate," is a translation of the word arsenokoitai, meaning 'sodomites.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by typomaniac View Post
    As we all know, the anti-gay crowd loves to quote a handful of Biblical verses about the sinfulness and abomination of homosexuality.

    But guess what? Each and every one of those verses applies to.....MEN!

    That's right, ladies. The Bible says absolutely nothing about lesbian behavior. So go ahead and enjoy those carpets with righteous pleasure. Even the early Christians knew that their faithful menfolk needed something fun to watch.

    Read Romans Chapter 1 very slooooooowly, and deeeeductively...........and you will find that both men and women having sex with the same sex is emphatically, and clearly pointed out as sin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringJeff View Post
    Of course, the Christian Church has been saying for about 2000 years that its members absolutely must agree about, say, the physical resurrection of Christ, and can never, ever question it. And look how horribly it worked out for them.
    Okay, so they managed to control all the swords and be the only game in town for a few centuries. (There's a legacy to be proud of.) Nowadays the older factions, especially the Catholics, are losing followers left and right.

    Not to mention that a number of Christian sects now claim that the whole resurrection part of the story was really just an allegory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringJeff View Post
    As to Missileman's contention: the term "abusers of themselves with mankind," found in 1 Corinthians 6:9 directly after "effeminate," is a translation of the word arsenokoitai, meaning 'sodomites.'
    The KJV and several other versions have that passage reading "nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind". Effeminate appears to be used as a synonym for male prostitute, not lesbian.

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