I'm sorry

[LongTermGuy]

Which one?

...`The one before this one....

[jimnyc]

Silly Jim, boobies are for kids!

You do realize, that regardless of my age, I am perhaps one of the largest kids alive?

[jimnyc]

A lot of people are in favor of freedom of speech. Until someone says something that offends them. Then they get upset.
Like if someone came on this board today and said "I was so happy to hear about those military people dying in a chopper crash. I hope they all went to hell."
Or perhaps "The more Jews and Christians killed by ISIS, the better. They all need to die!"
Hate is created by those who hate.

What a double edge sword we have here!

We have FOS. None of us want it taken away. We love the 1st amendment and many will fight and die for it. Our COTUS is perhaps the most important thing in our society. While we hate to hear what others say, we want them to have FOS, to protect our own, and the idea forever.

But who wants to hear things by ISIS, or other terrorists? Or people wishing death on our soldiers and such? Or celebrating death of our soldiers? Or how about simply enjoying ISIS, and even just adding smiley faces after writing the name? Stuff like that would make me want to ban those folks instantly.

Have the ability to say things, even if it insults or hurts another - and you may get similar treatment from another. And of course everyone has that right to be the insulter... So what do you do? Do you allow the proverbial shit to hit the fan?

I don't know. I really don't have those answers. That's where I think the "individual" comes in. I would never be the person to kill the 1st. But that doesn't mean I can't temper my comments at times. Just because I do have that right, it doesn't mean to use it solely to go full force into insult and kill mode!! And trust me, speaking for myself, I CAN do that, and not proud of it. Again, speaking for myself, I try to understand what I'm posting and think for a few seconds before hitting the submit button. Sometimes I fail, as you all know. But I think if I "try" at least, I'll be better for it, even if some crap leaks through at times. (I know, for me it's like trying to stop water from going through a strainer at times).

Gabby's post makes me think. Makes me wonder and reflect from both sides. Who would have though she was capable of making my mind reason with myself. It HAD to be accidental.

[tailfins]

Our COTUS is perhaps the most important thing in our society.

Jim, you can't fool us you dirty old man. You use COTUS instead of "the Constitution" because it's one letter away from COITUS.

[Abbey Marie]

Jim, bottom line, you are not the government, and do not need to be the guardian of everyone's or anyone's 1st Amendment rights. It is your board, free for us all to use, and what you choose to disallow (which has always been a very small amount of stuff anyway) is rightfully up to you.

As I think Gabby alluded, anyone who says there should be no limits on speech, has something they personally do not want to hear.

My view: Making the place palatable for most, is far better than catering to the few, because of some utopian feeling that we owe it the world to allow it all.

[jimnyc]

Jim, bottom line, you are not the government, and do not need to be the guardian of everyone's or anyone's 1st amendment rights. It is your board, free for us all to use, and what you choose to disallow (which has always been a very small amount of stuff anyway) is rightfully up to you.

As I think Gabby alluded, anyone who says there should be no limits on speech, has something they personally do not want to hear.

My view: Making the place palatable for most, is far better than catering to the few, because of some utopian feeling that we owe it the world to allow it all.

I know I'm not the government. But I still like to try and extend those freedoms. But if left fully unchecked we might find ourselves with 2 posts per day. Just like any good family out there in America, we temper what we say, we respect one another - and that makes for a healthy family.

Unless I'm angry, then all bets are off. Ok, I kid, I kid.

[jimnyc]

11:11 make a wish!

[jimnyc]

Had to rush to get that last one in before the clock changed! I remember my first girlfriend telling me that if you made a wish at 11:11 it would come true. Weird thing is, I "accidentally" look at the clock and see that time, and it's happened MANY times to just be an accident. I'm talking hundreds and hundreds of times over the years. And no, nothing comes true.

[tailfins]

Had to rush to get that last one in before the clock changed! I remember my first girlfriend telling me that if you made a wish at 11:11 it would come true. Weird thing is, I "accidentally" look at the clock and see that time, and it's happened MANY times to just be an accident. I'm talking hundreds and hundreds of times over the years. And no, nothing comes true.

Let me guess: You wished at 11:11 that she would shut up. Right? The funny thing with that wish: If you tell her it decreases the chances of it happening.

[Gunny]

Jim, bottom line, you are not the government, and do not need to be the guardian of everyone's or anyone's 1st amendment rights. It is your board, free for us all to use, and what you choose to disallow (which has always been a very small amount of stuff anyway) is rightfully up to you.

As I think Gabby alluded, anyone who says there should be no limits on speech, has something they personally do not want to hear.

My view: Making the place palatable for most, is far better than catering to the few, because of some utopian feeling that we owe it the world to allow it all.

What you say is true. Not going to argue your points because they are valid. There are limits to free speech. And, it IS Jim's board to do with as he pleases.

But you DO cater to the few.

[jimnyc]

But you DO cater to the few.

I honestly think we cater to all, just at different times. Liberal or conservative, friend or foe - I defy anyone to come forward who has approached ANY staff member and didn't get catered to. Granted, if things are pushed, it doesn't always work out to a happy ending. This is why I have so many darn fights in PM. When there are fights, I'll cater to both sides, until given a reason to side with one. If a liberal contacts me, I will work my best to help out with whatever problem they came forth with. I'm not tooting my own horn, but I can't think of a single member who wouldn't get assistance and catered to if they reach out to me.

I think very often folks will confuse how staff posts on the board with how they are catered to. If a liberal comes in with guns blaring for example, and some conservatives come after that person.... Now that person feels attacked. If that person is a true asshole, hell, I may even jump on the bandwagon - as a member just like anyone else. BUT - if that member were to contact a staff member with a legit question concern (legit being the key word), they WILL get the respect and such that they deserve, like any other member.

I think if anything, I am guilty of trying to appease the masses, and trying to make everyone happy, instead of jumping down on one side. Sometimes that fails me, I admit that.

** Any likeness is not meant to be directed at anyone. Just speaking in generalities from over the years. And yes, I understand that being an appeaser is sometimes the wrong thing to do.

[Gunny]

I honestly think we cater to all, just at different times. Liberal or conservative, friend or foe - I defy anyone to come forward who has approached ANY staff member and didn't get catered to. Granted, if things are pushed, it doesn't always work out to a happy ending. This is why I have so many darn fights in PM. When there are fights, I'll cater to both sides, until given a reason to side with one. If a liberal contacts me, I will work my best to help out with whatever problem they came forth with. I'm not tooting my own horn, but I can't think of a single member who wouldn't get assistance and catered to if they reach out to me.

I think very often folks will confuse how staff posts on the board with how they are catered to. If a liberal comes in with guns blaring for example, and some conservatives come after that person.... Now that person feels attacked. If that person is a true asshole, hell, I may even jump on the bandwagon - as a member just like anyone else. BUT - if that member were to contact a staff member with a legit question concern (legit being the key word), they WILL get the respect and such that they deserve, like any other member.

I think if anything, I am guilty of trying to appease the masses, and trying to make everyone happy, instead of jumping down on one side. Sometimes that fails me, I admit that.

** Any likeness is not meant to be directed at anyone. Just speaking in generalities from over the years. And yes, I understand that being an appeaser is sometimes the wrong thing to do.

Come on. You act like I didn't ever run a board. Like I said... your board, your rules. But, you cater to 3 whiny ass shits while the rest of us that makes sense and have WAY more than clue about poliyics than those 3 ignorant fucks.

I just kind of wonder why .....

[jimnyc]

Come on. You act like I didn't ever run a board. Like I said... your board, your rules. But, you cater to 3 whiny ass shits while the rest of us that makes sense and have WAY more than clue about poliyics than those 3 ignorant fucks.

I just kind of wonder why .....

Are you saying that I never addressed any issues when/if you asked me? Maybe Gabby can chime in as a liberal and state whether or not that's the case, whether or not I helped her ever. Same with every single member on this board is free to state whether or not I address their issues or whether or not I blow them off.

And I don't know 100% for sure which folks you claim I specifically cater to - but I'll wager $5 right now that whomever they are - they'll claim that I've helped them before AND corrected and/or asked them to do things before to reel things in.

Also, and just out of curiosity, IF there are 3 members that ANYONE doesn't care for - why would they not be on folks ignore lists? I'm not certain why others think I may cater to some, but I can only assume these folks don't care for them. I'll wager another $5 that those folks don't use the ignore button. Sometimes folks think I cater to others - simply because I don't ban whomever they don't like, or take some sort of action they would prefer. Either way, the ignore button solves any such issues almost instantly. But generally when I ask people to do so, commence the arguments as to why that won't be happening...

[Gunny]

Your token not really quite a liberal? Why don't you get Pixie too? You know ... the one that only ever seems to show up when I do? That one? The one that agrees with every ass kisser on the board because she's a slut that uses everyone?

Go ahead. Make my day. Unless you got no balls and just ban me. Otherwise, belt up, junior.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Your token not really quite a liberal? Why don't you get Pixie too? You know ... the one that only ever seems to show up when I do? That one? The one that agrees with every ass kisser on the board because she's a slut that uses everyone?

Go ahead. Make my day. Unless you got no balls and just ban me. Otherwise, belt up, junior.

Grow the hell up dude. Every damn time you show up here you start whining about some member as if your ass is gold!
You whine like a damn child and then proclaim your ffing greatness, it gets really old quick.
Man up for once in your miserable life and admit that you aren't shit when its not your board with you holding all the power.
You did not show back up and act like a man, instead you showed up to whine like a biaaaatch!
So three members here made you cry--big deal, grow the ffk up....
Name those members so we ALL can see what terrible louts they are!

Man, you take the cake for being a whiny ass...-Tyr