EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK: A Bunch of Liars! What is the Church Going to Do?

[Gunny]

No sir, Not my understanding , not mine at all. -Tyr

I made sure to wrote "THE TEACHINGS"... As in the Words that Jesus used to convey the message..
I am a believer but far from being a teacher myself. -Tyr

Matthew 10:14

"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake the dust off your feet."

Matthew 7:1

"Judge not lest ye be judged."

There is no difference in misrepresenting the teachings of Christ than those militant Islamic extremists who misrepresent Islam. Food for thought.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

I understand your political position but wonder why you think that the Church can help.

The first thing the churches tells us about God is that he is unfathomable, unknowable and works in mysterious ways.

They then quickly proceed to tell us reams of information about him and all that they fathom and know of the unfathomable and unknowable.

IOW. They lie to us.

Seems you are asking an organization that makes its living by lying to help you solve the problem of another organization that does the same lying that it does.

Care t explain?

Regards
DL

[aboutime]

I understand your political position but wonder why you think that the Church can help.

The first thing the churches tells us about God is that he is unfathomable, unknowable and works in mysterious ways.

They then quickly proceed to tell us reams of information about him and all that they fathom and know of the unfathomable and unknowable.

IOW. They lie to us.

Seems you are asking an organization that makes its living by lying to help you solve the problem of another organization that does the same lying that it does.

Care t explain?

Regards
DL

No need for anyone to explain anything to you. We all know, based on your endless hatred; you won't accept anything we might say, anyhow. You are constantly on the prowl to have an argument with people who are seeking to be as low as you. So..you win. You are all by yourself. Care to explain that?

[avatar4321]

I understand your political position but wonder why you think that the Church can help.

The first thing the churches tells us about God is that he is unfathomable, unknowable and works in mysterious ways.

They then quickly proceed to tell us reams of information about him and all that they fathom and know of the unfathomable and unknowable.

IOW. They lie to us.

Seems you are asking an organization that makes its living by lying to help you solve the problem of another organization that does the same lying that it does.

Care t explain?

Regards
DL

I don't know what church you are attending but I've always been invited to know God for myself.

Jesus said that eternal life was to know God and Jesus. If one cannot have eternal life without knowing God how could you be saved if you believe Him to be unknowable?

Moses wanted all of Israel to know God and be prophets in their own right. Perhaps if you knew the scriptures better...

[Abbey Marie]

It's not even 'a' source. Divisiveness is a personification of evil, always looking for any difference and seeing evil in what you find.

And perhaps it is the exactly the failure to "see evil", that is our biggest problem today.
Can you entertain that possibility?

[Abbey Marie]

I don't know what church you are attending but I've always been invited to know God for myself.

Jesus said that eternal life was to know God and Jesus. If one cannot have eternal life without knowing God how could you be saved if you believe Him to be unknowable?

Moses wanted all of Israel to know God and be prophets in their own right. Perhaps if you knew the scriptures better...

Well said. But I suspect Gnostic shudders at the suggestion that he attends any church.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

And perhaps it is the exactly the failure to "see evil", that is our biggest problem today.
Can you entertain that possibility?

It is exactly that abject blindness they have been teaching in our schools for decades now--the million shades of grey.. Justifying evil by proclaiming it not an evil but just a choice and everybody has the right to make such choices!
fj pushes that in a clever way but he still pushes it. Just like he defends the muslims but denies it.-Tyr

[fj1200]

And perhaps it is the exactly the failure to "see evil", that is our biggest problem today.
Can you entertain that possibility?

I suppose it's a possibility. I suggest that our biggest problem today could be seeing evil where it doesn't exist. Can you entertain that possibility?

[fj1200]

It is exactly that abject blindness they have been teaching in our schools for decades now--the million shades of grey.. Justifying evil by proclaiming it not an evil but just a choice and everybody has the right to make such choices!
fj pushes that in a clever way but he still pushes it. Just like he defends the muslims but denies it.-Tyr

I can't really help it when your imagination points you in the wrong direction. But please, talk about me to other people; that's always a courageous stance.

[indago]

I don't know what church you are attending but I've always been invited to know God for myself.

Jesus said that eternal life was to know God and Jesus. If one cannot have eternal life without knowing God how could you be saved if you believe Him to be unknowable?

Moses wanted all of Israel to know God and be prophets in their own right. Perhaps if you knew the scriptures better...

And God wanted to kill Moses...

[Abbey Marie]

I suppose it's a possibility. I suggest that our biggest problem today could be seeing evil where it doesn't exist. Can you entertain that possibility?

I suppose, but I am not the one denying/challenging Tyr's point about evil, now, am I?

[aboutime]

I suppose it's a possibility. I suggest that our biggest problem today could be seeing evil where it doesn't exist. Can you entertain that possibility?

That sounds so Liberal of you fj. Seems YOU are the lone one here, suggesting such a thing. An act of Denial.

[fj1200]

I suppose, but I am not the one denying/challenging Tyr's point about evil, now, am I?

I don't even know what this thread is about any more. Too much post and run going on.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I don't even know what this thread is about any more. Too much post and run going on.

Stated as you attempt to trump up a reason to evade answering the rather pointed question she hit you with or else run away yourself.

I had no reason to banter with you when you ignorantly attempted to
dismiss my obvious point with one of your million shades of grey liberal strategies..
Besides what do you care that others do not reply?
You are in an verbal engagement with Abbey, has she ever ran from anybody?
She has not as far as I've ever seen...

So answer her or run-- your ball pedro..

I suspect that you do not want to because you can not get way with your usual tactics and must defend without clever retorts, insults or nonsensical evasions..

fj--

I don't even know what this thread

Hoss, when you plead ignorance like that you just pulled out the white flag but haven't yet waved it.. --Tyr

[aboutime]

I don't even know what this thread is about any more. Too much post and run going on.

Now you really are sounding like Obama, when he constantly claims he HEARD ABOUT important stuff in the Press?

Lincoln had it right, and it applies very well to you fj.

Though you will deny it....

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
Abraham Lincoln


We're not fooled.