I was referring to the link, not your post; It was all over the place IMO. For the most part I agree that lies are the norm these days. They are "lies" because everyone refers to only their "truth" rather than seeking understanding. As far as the church goes sometimes churches have been on the forefront of seeking understanding and sometimes they have been lagging in seeking understanding. You can look at almost any major event in history and see the church on both sides (slavery and civil rights) as well as the church moving along with society (women in leadership).
This whole discussion reminds me of my wife bringing home a copy of a grammar book from 1939 that suggested it was no longer "evil" to end a sentence with a preposition (or something like that). Because surely improper grammar was the head of the snake in 1939.
Surely you're still confused and unable/unwilling? to engage in debate.
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"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
Fair enough, the reason I posted was because lies are the norm now a days, years ago a liar was like a thief, everyone knew him but he did it anyway, now we have liars on all levels and some are good enough unless you fact check everything you hear you don't know them, and yes it is even happening in churches, that was all my point was.
Never look down on someone unless you are helping them up
After the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box - Author unknown
“Unfortunately, the truth is now whatever the media say it is”
-Abbey
No. More lie the parts of the bible you will not cherry pick. The ones that empower you instead of the ones who make you a slave to God. Check these two out. I have it in a message about Jesus and the Christian penchant for ridding him as their scapegoat whipping boy.
The following 2 quotes are why I call what God did to Jesus murder. As you can see, a sacrifice was not required.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
As you can see all are saved without a sacrifice.
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Having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral. That immorality does not change even if Jesus would have volunteered, which he did not do.
Jesus said to pick up your cross and follow him but I see that you have taken the line that someone else should pay your dues. Quite manly and moral that. Not.
Do you really think someone else can pay your dues and allow you to shirk your just reward?
Deuteronomy 24:16(ESV) “Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.
Ezekiel 18:20(ESV) The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.
The declaration which says that God visits the sins of the fathers upon the children is contrary to every principle of moral justice. [Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason]
As above so below.
If you had God's power, would you not be able to find a way that does not go against the wisdom of Jesus and the bible?
Perhaps like being man enough to step up to your own demands for a worthy sacrifice?
That is what a good God would do.
Regards
DL
GCB. So far in this thread. You, and you alone have been proven to be the sole
Liar, out of that BUNCH of liars your title claims. As for what the church will do.
Only YOU are qualified to disclose that information since only YOU can speak for WESTBORO.
I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
So, this is for them.
GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !
Yep. A bunch of liars.
Regards
DL
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
Y'think?
If I felt guilty about divorce I'd need medication.
So tell me .... you're always saying what you aren't about. What are you about? Everything you post is against. An attack. Put your money where your mouth is. You think out of nowhere Man was created by happenstance from some primordial ooze, or what?
And bring your A game. You're going to lose, but your reverse psychology does pique my interest. 'Cuz I'm bored.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
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