Protect & Serve

[indago]

From The Associated Press 8 April 2015:
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Feidin Santana told MSNBC that he initially considered deleting the video he recorded of a police officer shooting at Walter Scott eight times as Scott ran away, and thought about leaving North Charleston out of fear for his own safety.

Santana, a barber originally from the Dominican Republic, said he was walking to work Saturday when he saw police pursuing Scott and followed them to the area where the shooting unfolded. Santana said he heard the sound of a Taser being deployed and Scott began running before the shots were fired. Santana said Scott appeared to have already been unconscious when the officer put handcuffs on him and walked away.

Santana said he later saw a police report about the shooting and knew that he had to come forward because the officer's account of what led to the shooting didn't match what he recorded. Santana said he showed the video to a friend after reading the report, and his friend agreed that he needed to come forward.
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Journalist Russ Bynum wrote for The Associated Press 10 April 2015:
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Walter Scott had much to celebrate: His job as a warehouse forklift operator, which had begun as temporary work over the holidays, was going so well his boss was determined to keep him as a permanent hire. And he had popped the question to his longtime girlfriend, who had agreed to become Scott's third wife.

But Scott also had a problem that kept him looking over his shoulder: The father of four had fallen behind, again, on his child support payments. Failure to pay can mean jail time in South Carolina, and Scott had been locked up three times since 2008.

His family suspects it was Scott's fear of returning to jail that led him to run during a traffic stop last Saturday.

Scott ended up dead, shot in the back. The policeman who opened fire was charged with murder after the shooting was caught on video, and the case stirred outrage across the country as the latest instance of an unarmed black man killed by a white officer.

Rodney Scott said his brother would take long detours when driving to their parents' house because he thought there were more police patrolling the direct, 10-minute route from his home. He said Walter also tried to make sure any vehicle he drove had working headlights and taillights.

A few days before his death, Scott struck a deal to buy a 1991 Mercedes from a neighbor. His old van, a hand-me-down from his parents, had bald tires and a failing transmission. The Mercedes needed some work, too, Scott's brother said, but it seemed like a reliable ride that he could afford.

Scott was driving his new car to an auto parts store Saturday morning, his brothers said, when a North Charleston policeman pulled him over for what the officer told him was a bad taillight. With flashing lights in his rearview mirror, Scott called his mother to say he might be headed back to jail.

"He wanted to let her know he was getting pulled over and the way this was going, he'd probably be getting arrested," said Anthony Scott, his older brother. "In other words: `Get ready to come and get me.'"

...Separate video, recorded by a bystander, captures the officer firing eight shots at the fleeing man. Slager had initially said Scott was shot in a scuffle over the officer's stun gun.
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[indago]

From nbclosangeles 10 April 2015:
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Deputies appeared to use Tasers to stun a man and then beat him after the pursuit in San Bernardino County Thursday afternoon. ...The man appeared to fall to the ground with his arms outstretched. Two deputies immediately descended on him and began punching him in the head and kneeing him in the groin.

The group surrounding the man grew to 11 sheriff's deputies.
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Journalists Tami Abdollah and Amy Taxin wrote for The Associated Press 11 April 2015:
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Ten sheriff's deputies in Southern California have been put on leave after several of them were shown on video kicking and punching a man following a 2 1/2-hour chase involving a stolen horse. San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said Friday that the video "disturbed and troubled" him and appeared to show an excessive use of force. ...McMahon said internal and criminal investigations are under way. The FBI announced Friday it was starting a civil rights investigation. "I'm asking for some patience while we complete a thorough and fair investigation," McMahon said. "I am disturbed and troubled by what I see in the video. It does not appear to be in line with our policies and procedures.

...McMahon said the department received multiple threats after the video was aired.

...After the beating, a deputy whispered in his ear: "This isn't over,'" attorney Jim Terrell said. "And that's why he's scared to death for himself and his family right now," Terrell said.
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[fj1200]

I do not live in either of those cities. I speak of where I do live.. AND AROUND HERE THE DAMN RACE CARD FIX IS IN ...
IT HAS BEEN IN SINCE THE EARLY 80'S..
Myself, I am damn tired of it because its insanity and dumbass thinking to boot..

CORRUPTION TO FAVOR THE BLACKS IS INSTITUTIONALIZED HERE. --TYR

Yes, I'm quite sure that your statement is true. It would be like the only city in the country.

[indago]

From The New York Times 15 April 2015:
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The New York City Council is again calling for the hiring of 1,000 additional police officers, a request that Mayor Bill de Blasio rejected last year. Undeterred, the Council, led by Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito, outlined a budget proposal this week that would spend $68.7 million in the coming fiscal year, which begins on July 1, to add 1,000 officers to the class that will enter the Police Academy in July.

But in a letter sent to Ms. Mark-Viverito on Wednesday, nearly five dozen organizations, including Communities United for Police Reform and the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund, questioned whether the Council was trading away community services for more “community policing.” The letter listed a variety of programs that could be financed with the money the Council wants to spend on the new officers. Many more teenagers, for example, could be provided with summer jobs than the 50,000 who were hired this year, the letter stated, noting that about 83,000 young people were shut out of summer jobs last year because of a lack of money.

...The Council’s renewed push to increase the number of officers comes amid a national debate over police-civilian relations, which have been strained by the killings of several men at the hands of officers. ...“Folks would like to think that before you put more police officers on the street, you change the culture of police.”
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[indago]

From The Associated Press 18 April 2015:
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An Ohio police officer is being praised for holding his fire even as a slaying suspect charged him, saying repeatedly, "shoot me." ...The video shows Kidder repeatedly backpedaling and telling 27-year-old Michael Wilcox he doesn't want to shoot him. ..."He jumped out and he sprinted toward me. I had my firearm already drawn ... and I told him to put his hands up in the air and he was screaming ... `Shoot me! Shoot me!' " Kidder said he watched Wilcox's hands and didn't believe he was going to shoot at him, so he kept yelling back to Wilcox that didn't want to shoot him. Backup officers arrived and Wilcox surrendered.
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[revelarts]

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

From a book by another former police chief...
Cop Culture: Why Good Cops Go Bad

Quote:

Sworn to protect and serve, police officers who stray into deviant behavior may become a citizen’s worst nightmare. A thoughtful examination of the formal and informal process of becoming blue, Cop Culture: Why Good Cops Go Bad is a unique combination of academic research based on Chief Scott Silverii’s doctoral dissertation and more than two decades in law enforcement. The book seeks to answer the ultimate question: why do good cops become bad cops? Demonstrating the highly seductive and overwhelmingly influential culture of policing, the book presents interviews and observations by officers from across the country that explore how individuals may devolve into an aberrant subcultural fraternity. Chief Silverii explains the damaging effects upon the officers’ personal lives as they segregate from social and moral anchors and attach themselves to a lifestyle that may eventually bump up to criminality. Against the backdrop of the principles for organizational theory, acculturation, occupational socialization, and group culture, practical examples from real-life officers explain abstract ideals such as the "thin blue line" and the "code of silence." This book is the first of its kind to combine an anthropological ethnography examining policing’s cultural expectancies with real-life experiences. By exploring the subculture of policing in vivid detail, it exposes the causes behind the separation from organizational ideals and a false status of detrimental hegemonic entitlement. Chief Silverii’s covert participant observations, semi-structured interviews, meta-analysis of relevant literature, and personal experiences provide readers with a scintillating panorama of this pervasive, destructive process. Chief Silverii also offers practical, proven solutions for creating a culture of change based on accountable, productive public service.

Respect the police but be realistic not Pollyanna. Human beings at work.

The sad truth is more cops than ever are bad.. And I mean all levels of bad combined..
Which includes have that superior arrogant mentality and daily verbal abuse to innocent people.
Seems they are being taught to never admit they are wrong or that they are not perfect, which is strange since so many of them do not even know the limits or entirety of the laws they are obligated to uphold.
When one is dead wrong try telling him/her that as politely as you can--9 times out of ten you get rebuffed, verbally abused -if not treated far worse.
As far as being civil and decent only about 25% meet that level of professionalism and thats my being generous in my judgment IMHO. -TYR

[indago]

Melendez, 46, is facing two counts including; Misconduct in Office, and Assault with Intent to Do Great Bodily Harm Less than Murder. He was seen on camera brutally beating Floyd Dent.

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[Gunny]

You are suggesting that these instances be swept under the rug?

I'd suggest they not be so one-sided. I must have missed the "Black cop shoot black crook", "black cop shoots white crook" articles. Or you could look through the San Antonio Express. Odds are in South Texas no matter WHAT color your skin is you're going to get shot by a Mexican American cop.

No one suggested sweeping anything under the rug. Just pointed out that sensationalizing a handful of alleged bad cops and or wrongful deaths/shootings vs the 98% that go to work and do their jobs.

And as anyone here can tell you, I hate cops. Especially small town Andy and Barny cops who can get away with whatever bullshit lies they want to tell to suit their agendas. However, that doesn't make them all bad.

The only job worse today is being in the military ground forces overseas. And the military has that "10%" too.

When you get your crown of thorns, let me know.

[indago]

From The Associated Press 21 April 2015:
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The Supreme Court said Tuesday that police may not extend an ordinary traffic stop to seek evidence of crimes unrelated to the offense that prompted officers to pull a vehicle over. The justices voted 6-3 in favor of a driver who was found to have methamphetamine in his car. Dennys Rodriguez was issued a warning for driving on the shoulder of a Nebraska highway and then made to wait less than 10 minutes for officers to walk a drug-sniffing dog around the car. The dog alerted and a search of the vehicle turned up the drugs.
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[Gunny]

From The Associated Press 21 April 2015:
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The Supreme Court said Tuesday that police may not extend an ordinary traffic stop to seek evidence of crimes unrelated to the offense that prompted officers to pull a vehicle over. The justices voted 6-3 in favor of a driver who was found to have methamphetamine in his car. Dennys Rodriguez was issued a warning for driving on the shoulder of a Nebraska highway and then made to wait less than 10 minutes for officers to walk a drug-sniffing dog around the car. The dog alerted and a search of the vehicle turned up the drugs.
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And THAT is just bullsh*t. Stupid decision.

Operating a motor vehicle is a PRIVILEGE granted by the STATE, not the Federal Government. The conditions for operating a motor vehicle within a state are made by the STATE, not the Federal Government.

[aboutime]

Since Obama ignores all of our laws, and also ignores the Constitution.

Why should ANY AMERICAN be expected to obey, follow, respect, or observe any LAWS, Federal, State, or Local?

Oh, wait a second. That's called.....ANARCHY!

That's really what Obama, Holder, Reid, Pelosi, and every Democrat in this nation WANT!

Looks like it's working as planned! Everyone here who despises any kind of authority, or Law officer's IS HAPPY NOW!

[indago]

Operating a motor vehicle is a PRIVILEGE granted by the STATE...

Obtaining license is a privilege granted by a higher authority. If you ask for permission, then the permission can be either granted or denied, at the whim of the higher authority. There was a time when driving an automobile on the public roads was a right, but the people let this right slip through their fingers.

It is explained, in the Yale Law Journal of 1931: "The law has drawn a distinction between the ordinary use of the highway for travel, and its use for purposes of private gain. A vehicle on the road for the former purpose is there as of 'right'; one using it in the latter manner has only a 'privilege' of use."

The Constitutional Law section of American Jurisprudence explains the right: "While the freedom to travel within the United States has been held to be a basic right under the Federal Constitution which is independent of a specific provision therein, the right of locomotion has also been held to be a part of the 'liberty' guaranteed by the due process clauses."

Justice Epes, delivering the opinion of the Supreme Court of Appeals of Virginia, explained the right quite clearly and frankly: "The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon in the ordinary course of life and business is a common right which he has under his right to enjoy life and liberty, to acquire and possess property, and to pursue happiness and safety. It includes the right in so doing to use the ordinary and usual conveyances of the day; and under the existing modes of travel includes the right to drive a horse-drawn carriage or wagon thereon, or to operate an automobile thereon, for the usual and ordinary purposes of life and business. It is not a mere privilege, like the privilege of moving a house in the street, or transporting persons or property for hire along the street, which a city may permit or prohibit at will." Justice Griffith, delivering an opinion of the Supreme Court of Mississippi, declared, upon reviewing the opinion of Justice Epes of Virginia concerning this most valuable of rights: "There seems to be no dissent among the authorities on this proposition."

[fj1200]

And THAT is just bullsh*t. Stupid decision.

Operating a motor vehicle is a PRIVILEGE granted by the STATE, not the Federal Government. The conditions for operating a motor vehicle within a state are made by the STATE, not the Federal Government.

But the state has to abide by the 4th. It's good to see the 4th upheld occasionally. IMO they either had probable cause to begin with and shouldn't have to bring in additional resources to find probable cause. It was fishing.

[revelarts]

Obtaining license is a privilege granted by a higher authority. If you ask for permission, then the permission can be either granted or denied, at the whim of the higher authority. There was a time when driving an automobile on the public roads was a right, but the people let this right slip through their fingers.

It is explained, in the Yale Law Journal of 1931: "The law has drawn a distinction between the ordinary use of the highway for travel, and its use for purposes of private gain. A vehicle on the road for the former purpose is there as of 'right'; one using it in the latter manner has only a 'privilege' of use."

The Constitutional Law section of American Jurisprudence explains the right: "While the freedom to travel within the United States has been held to be a basic right under the Federal Constitution which is independent of a specific provision therein, the right of locomotion has also been held to be a part of the 'liberty' guaranteed by the due process clauses."

Justice Epes, delivering the opinion of the Supreme Court of Appeals of Virginia, explained the right quite clearly and frankly: "The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon in the ordinary course of life and business is a common right which he has under his right to enjoy life and liberty, to acquire and possess property, and to pursue happiness and safety. It includes the right in so doing to use the ordinary and usual conveyances of the day; and under the existing modes of travel includes the right to drive a horse-drawn carriage or wagon thereon, or to operate an automobile thereon, for the usual and ordinary purposes of life and business. It is not a mere privilege, like the privilege of moving a house in the street, or transporting persons or property for hire along the street, which a city may permit or prohibit at will." Justice Griffith, delivering an opinion of the Supreme Court of Mississippi, declared, upon reviewing the opinion of Justice Epes of Virginia concerning this most valuable of rights: "There seems to be no dissent among the authorities on this proposition."

yep

the whole " Driving Is A Privileged not a right" thing never sounded right to me, even as a kid.

I heard this crazy preacher Butch Paugh on the radio SPLAIN It for me....
"Drivers licensing and state vehicle registrations are unconstitutional: 'It is an unlawful restriction on a persons right of freedom to travel...' Supreme Court
Do you need a license to walk on the publicly paid for sidewalk? We paid for the roads just as well didn't we?...."

he quoted this

"The following argument has been used in at least three*states (Pennsylvania, Ohio, and*West*Virginia) as a legal*brief to support a demand for dismissal of charges of "driving*without a*license." It is the argument that was the reason for the charges to be dropped, or for a*"win" in*court against the argument that free*people can have their right to travel regulated by their servants.
The forgotten legal maxim is that free*people have a right to travel on the roads which are provided by their servants for that purpose, using ordinary transportation of the day. Licensing cannot be required of free*people, because taking on the restrictions of a license requires the surrender of a*right. The driver's*license can be required of people who use the highways for trade, commerce, or*hire; that*is, if they earn their living on the road, and if they use extraordinary machines on the roads. If you are not using the highways for profit, you cannot be required to have a driver's*license.*"
read More here ensuretheblessingsofliberty

Click to hear interviewwith Pennsylvania State Representative Samuel E. Rohrer who found the info that it's unconstitutional and has tried to move to make some changes to state law.

Now I don't push this concept, but I don't like to concede the to the mantra.