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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    No because capitalism, unfettered capitalism, trumps all else. I believe in minimal, and I mean minimal government interference in the affairs of private business.

    Private business, today's private business is moral, very moral despite what anti-achievers like you say, they know that bad publicity, the kind that abuse of workers wouyld bring would drive down business and profits so companies and corporations bend over backwards to accomodate workers in the form of benefits, profit sharing, retirement plans etc. etc.

    In the case of China it is up to the Chinese people to change their labor laws from within and sure as there is a God those things will change from within, as the populace becomes more wealthy and desires the finer things in life such as personal freedoms the government will soon have to choose between the things that a monied poulace brings through capitalism or they will have to crackdown and go back to being broke......gee wonder which one they will choose? Americans should not be hindered in anyway, shape or form from capitalizing on China's emerging capitalism because some stupid fucking bleeding heart is sad because some 16 yr old from Shangzu is working in a factory in Bejing now. Tough shit, its a shitty world sometimes, can't save them all.

    The totalitarian leadership of china does not aim to give their people upward mobility. They like the have and have not system. They have no mechanism in place for people to change law. It's called a dictatorship, dumbass.

    But in the case of the US, it is up to us to make sure our worker class is not completely destroyed by competition from a slave labor economy and that our nation in general is not destroyed by that same slave labor nation builiding an army against us. Life is shitty sometimes, but as humans we help each other, instead of plunging with gusto into the satanic cycle of abuse you love so well. Your embrace of evil is not a beacon of wisdom, or an attitude to be emulated, it's just a footnote documenting the erosion of your moral character.

    Oh hey, OCA, did unions EVER play a role in creating the great middle class in america?
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    DO the rest of you "conservatives" buy into OCA's vision of an "anything for a buck" world? Take this movement and shove it if this is what it was all for. Reagan is crying.

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    God Bless You, Sage.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    The totalitarian leadership of china does not aim to give their people upward mobility. They like the have and have not system. They have no mechanism in place for people to change law. It's called a dictatorship, dumbass.

    But in the case of the US, it is up to us to make sure our worker class is not completely destroyed by competition from a slave labor economy and that our nation in general is not destroyed by that same slave labor nation builiding an army against us. Life is shitty sometimes, but as humans we help each other, instead of plunging with gusto into the satanic cycle of abuse you love so well. Your embrace of evil is not a beacon of wisdom, or an attitude to be emulated, it's just a footnote documenting the erosion of your moral character.

    Oh hey, OCA, did unions EVER play a role in creating the great middle class in america?
    Without Unions of American workers, there would have never been this benefit of the internet to speak to one another. That is lost on many of our population.

    Although I would like to ultimately thank GOD for the ability of my parents to provide me with an average upbringing I have to also thank the trade and professional Unions that allowed and provided them with the voice and wherewithal to expect and demand a fair shake in the marketplace of American labour. If fairness was ever a consideration of the capitalists the Unions would have never been necessary. They, the unions, are now more necessary than ever.

    We will be in the streets soon enough to demand simply a fair shake in this economic equation.
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    Default Unions To Blame For Automakers Being In The Tank


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    Oh hey, OCA, did unions EVER play a role in creating the great middle class in america?
    Very little.

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    I'll tell you about "very little", oca.


    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Very little.
    YOU are "very little".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    I'll tell you about "very little", oca.




    YOU are "very little".
    Oh thats so cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How about you stop running, address the union problem in Detroit and address post#101 in the "support the troops thread"?

    But then again its always been your M.O. for better than 3 years now to run when cornered, ain't it Psycho?

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    You are such a freaking coward, oca.


    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Oh thats so cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How about you stop running, address the union problem in Detroit and address post#101 in the "support the troops thread"?

    But then again its always been your M.O. for better than 3 years now to run when cornered, ain't it Psycho?
    Not to mention that you are also a liar. I've addressed these issues. Tough shit if you have purposely ignored my comments.

    I don't think you are "cute" at all and I have never said so. Why do you insist on your meaningless flirtations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    You are such a freaking coward, oca.




    Not to mention that you are also a liar. I've addressed these issues. Tough shit if you have purposely ignored my comments.

    I don't think you are "cute" at all and I have never said so. Why do you insist on your meaningless flirtations?
    Where, just perused that thread and this and nowhere did you address either.

    Stop being a baldfaced fucking liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Very little.

    So no wonder you think the free market is always moral and fair, you're ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    So no wonder you think the free market is always moral and fair, you're ignorant.
    Unions had their place about 80 or 90 years ago but today are largely irrelevant with the maturation of businesses and corporations. Unions are basically in it to rape businesses of as much profit as they can for as little work as they can get away with.

    Unions are antithetical to the American way.

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    Hey RWA address post#34 if you would, Psycho refused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Hey RWA address post#34 if you would, Psycho refused.


    Restate your argument like a grown man and I'll consider dialogueing further. short of that, I consider myself the winner and you an ignorant hack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Unions had their place about 80 or 90 years ago but today are largely irrelevant with the maturation of businesses and corporations. Unions are basically in it to rape businesses of as much profit as they can for as little work as they can get away with.

    Unions are antithetical to the American way.
    Which is it, they had their place or they're antithetical to america?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    Which is it, they had their place or they're antithetical to america?

    They had their place but now are antithetical to modern day America.

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