Originally Posted by
Gunny
I submit that you must have been educated in the post-80's. The US Civil war was fought for power, money and control of Washington DC. Not slavery. The US accused the South of slavery and I will give you just this ... the South took the bait and tried to defend it.
The US Civil War was fought because the North wanted high tariffs to force Americans to buy their goods while the South wanted low tariffs because it made more money overseas than the North was willing to pay. Slavery was an excuse. It has and still exists today. But that isn't the only time the US has used a lame-ass excuse to force itself on others, is it?
The Lusitania?
Pearl Harbor?
Communism and the Domino Theory in Korea and Vietnam?
Committing treason against our King over taxes that come nowhere close to what we feed the bureaucracy today?
Roosevelt's "Big Stick Theory" in the Carribean and Central America?
How about the systemic whiping out of native Americans?
The US wanted the South's goods. Just not us with them. So the US used military force, the only thing they were good for, to just rip them off.
you've got my response in the other thread on the civil war.
Without Slavery there would have been no civil war. period.
tariffs effects goods produced by slaves, no slaves, no cheap goods to ship, Tariffs were a side show.
concerning the other items.
"The Lusitania?
Pearl Harbor?
Communism and the Domino Theory in Korea and Vietnam?"
We're probably in more agreement there. i may even go farther than you concerning the "real" reasons for war.
might be called a conspiracy theorist in fact. even though i 'cut and paste' agreed upon facts
"Committing treason against our King over taxes that come nowhere close to what we feed the bureaucracy today?"
Agreed
"Roosevelt's "Big Stick Theory" in the Carribean and Central America?"
Imperialism in an ugly dress, Yes.
"How about the systemic wiping out of native Americans?"
Raw Imperialism and near genocid.... sorry i mean Manifest Destiny.
It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God. 1 Peter 2:16