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    Putin certainly has more balls than Obama. I can, to some extent, understand why he gains more respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Welcome to DP, Mr. Putin!

    Why did you shoot down that plane over Ukraine? Are you concentrating only on ISIS over in Syria, or are you up to no good as well?
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    Got any concrete evidence of that jimnyc,as BUK missile launchers were on both sides of the fence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Welcome to DP, Mr. Putin!

    Why did you shoot down that plane over Ukraine? Are you concentrating only on ISIS over in Syria, or are you up to no good as well?
    Why would Russia want to shoot down a commercial aircraft filled with hundreds of civilians? What would the Russian separatists/Russian Federation gain from shooting it down? Nothing, in fact they would probably lose (propaganda/information war wise)

    I can tell you who would gain from having that plane shot down and that would be the Ukrainian government who allowed the commercial airliner to fly over a war zone! They gain because they can blame it on Russia and then increase their international support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladamir View Post
    Thanks jimnyc
    Got any concrete evidence of that jimnyc,as BUK missile launchers were on both sides of the fence!
    The type of BUK missiles were decommissioned by the Russian Federation years ago, yet they are still used by the Ukrainians but the media here will just repeat RUSSIAN MADE RUSSIAN MADE

    Yes Russia correct me if I am wrong is the biggest exporter of weapons in the world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    The type of BUK missiles were decommissioned by the Russian Federation years ago, yet they are still used by the Ukrainians but the media here will just repeat RUSSIAN MADE RUSSIAN MADE

    Yes Russia correct me if I am wrong is the biggest exporter of weapons in the world?
    No that would be the American Military industrial complex.

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    The missiles which allegedly shot the plane down were decommissioned by the Russian Federation in 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    I think Gunny is getting a bit irritated at Putin worship (or he wishes his country had a leader like him)
    When it comes to Putin I wish my country had a leader like ME. Diplomacy with me is I'd turn my military on his butt and have to go to the john and then play Hillary --- "I didn't know". Sorry we wiped out your country. I was going potty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladamir View Post
    No that would be the American Military industrial complex.
    Closely behind is the Russian Federation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    Why would Russia want to shoot down a commercial aircraft filled with hundreds of civilians? What would the Russian separatists/Russian Federation gain from shooting it down? Nothing, in fact they would probably lose (propaganda/information war wise)

    I can tell you who would gain from having that plane shot down and that would be the Ukrainian government who allowed the commercial airliner to fly over a war zone! They gain because they can blame it on Russia and then increase their international support.
    It's called a mistake. They even played audio not long after it happened, between guys on the ground, and it seemed like they accidentally shot it down.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/18/world/...dio/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    Closely behind is the Russian Federation.
    Well not unless is has changed from 2014.Sorry you said closely behind the US that is correct with Germany third
    Last edited by Vladamir; 10-23-2015 at 07:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladamir View Post
    No that would be the American Military industrial complex.
    The strongest and greatest military in the world, defending the greatest country in the world.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladamir View Post
    Well not unless is has changed from 2014.
    1. United States: 31%
    2. Russia: 27%
    3. China: 5%
    4. Germany: 5%
    5. France: 5%
    6. U.K.: 4%
    7. Spain: 3%
    8. Italy: 3%
    9. Ukraine: 3%
    10. Israel: 2%



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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    1. United States: 31%
    2. Russia: 27%
    3. China: 5%
    4. Germany: 5%
    5. France: 5%
    6. U.K.: 4%
    7. Spain: 3%
    8. Italy: 3%
    9. Ukraine: 3%
    10. Israel: 2%



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    I know I misread your post

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    It's called a mistake. They even played audio not long after it happened, between guys on the ground, and it seemed like they accidentally shot it down.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/18/world/...dio/index.html
    Ukrainian government faked it as they put this out. This audio was not found independently. Funnily enough this audio was miraculously found in such a short amount of time after the incident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    Ukrainian government faked it as they put this out. This audio was not found independently. Funnily enough this audio was miraculously found in such a short amount of time after the incident.
    When you hear things such as this, and Russia released information blaming the Ukraine - how do you know which is telling the truth?

    And Fwiw - intercepting audio isn't difficult, not sure why you would think otherwise. Especially if in a war zone. They would all be listening in on one another.

    Russia has lied about a shitload. At one point they claimed they were not even in Ukraine, and that was proven a lie not shortly thereafter, even by the USA (which Btw, also stated Russia shot down the plane)
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