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    Do you have their emails? I will tell them they were the greatest two days in American history as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Do you have their emails? I will tell them they were the greatest two days in American history as well.
    How is killing people a great day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    How is killing people a great day?

    It's never a great day. Those were different times, and the reality is. You, and I might not be here if History had been different.

    If Hitler, and Tojo had succeeded. There probably wouldn't be a USA where you and I had the freedom to speak about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    It's never a great day. Those were different times, and the reality is. You, and I might not be here if History had been different.

    If Hitler, and Tojo had succeeded. There probably wouldn't be a USA where you and I had the freedom to speak about it.
    Necessary yes but to call it a good day is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    Necessary yes but to call it a good day is wrong.
    Forcing the surrender of America's enemy is a good day for America. All they had to do is surrender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Forcing the surrender of America's enemy is a good day for America. All they had to do is surrender.
    The actual bomb was not good apart from the fact it ended the war.
    Last edited by Christie Brinkley; 11-05-2015 at 05:17 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    The actual bomb was not good apart from the fact it ended the war.
    Saving thousands of lives is good. I am usually against war. But once the decision is made to fight, fight to win, with as few casualties on your side as possible. I don't believe in this UN police action horseshit.

    We said surrender. They didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    Necessary yes but to call it a good day is wrong.
    'Good' is relative.

    If the Japanese Emperor had surrendered early enough, he could've spared both Hiroshima and Nagasaki the fate that they suffered, saving HOW many lives ? Now .. the Emperor would never have regarded surrender as a 'good' thing .. but, his failure to act in time did its own bit to doom the populations of both of those cities.

    You seem keen to hint at blame applying to Americans, but remember that the beginning of their involvement in WWII began through an unprovoked attack on a military target in American territory by the Japanese. Theirs was an enthusiasm for starting that warfare, and for earning the death tolls that followed.

    You speak of the 85 year old Japanese woman who had her family killed ? Just beforehand, what was her extent of enthusiasm for supporting Japan's war effort ? What would HER thoughts have been, had something comparable happened to a city of a country she saw as her enemy ??

    Enemies are enemies, Christie. Your enemy would wish upon you great harm, which is what makes that enemy earn the name !

    And, besides .. wars do inevitably involve deaths of noncombatants, who some might call 'innocents'. It's just a fact of life (.. or death). The Japanese people you're so inclined to pity WERE committed to a war effort which, by its nature, couldn't help but kill.

    Perhaps in your next post on this thread, you could post something showing sympathy to the victims of the Pearl Harbour atrocity ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    'Good' is relative.

    If the Japanese Emperor had surrendered early enough, he could've spared both Hiroshima and Nagasaki the fate that they suffered, saving HOW many lives ? Now .. the Emperor would never have regarded surrender as a 'good' thing .. but, his failure to act in time did its own bit to doom the populations of both of those cities.

    You seem keen to hint at blame applying to Americans, but remember that the beginning of their involvement in WWII began through an unprovoked attack on a military target in American territory by the Japanese. Theirs was an enthusiasm for starting that warfare, and for earning the death tolls that followed.

    You speak of the 85 year old Japanese woman who had her family killed ? Just beforehand, what was her extent of enthusiasm for supporting Japan's war effort ? What would HER thoughts have been, had something comparable happened to a city of a country she saw as her enemy ??

    Enemies are enemies, Christie. Your enemy would wish upon you great harm, which is what makes that enemy earn the name !

    And, besides .. wars do inevitably involve deaths of noncombatants, who some might call 'innocents'. It's just a fact of life (.. or death). The Japanese people you're so inclined to pity WERE committed to a war effort which, by its nature, couldn't help but kill.

    Perhaps in your next post on this thread, you could post something showing sympathy to the victims of the Pearl Harbour atrocity ?
    The people and the Emperor were not to blame. The military that bastardized bushido were. They took control of the government. When a military takes control of a government guess what's coming next? They have to justify their existence. And Japan has few natural resources unless you like fish and rice.

    I don't know the exact reason for them attacking Pearl Harbor. I think military and it was about as dumb a decision as Hitler attacking Russia.
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