Is This Racism?

[fj1200]

.... as YOU are ?

No, I'm merely responding. But it seems you've got your wish.

[jimnyc]

No, I'm merely responding. But it seems you've got your wish.

It was more than HIS wish. YOU even stated something to the effect that you wished things would go here, and yet I don't recall you ever doing so. Then when a thread was in fact created to try and bring things out of the regular section, you refused to bring the fighting down here and continued in that thread. Please don't act innocent in all of this. Again, equally guilty on the fighting front.

[fj1200]

It was more than HIS wish. YOU even stated something to the effect that you wished things would go here, and yet I don't recall you ever doing so. Then when a thread was in fact created to try and bring things out of the regular section, you refused to bring the fighting down here and continued in that thread. Please don't act innocent in all of this. Again, equally guilty on the fighting front.

Am I required to go down there? Have I posted any "cage material" recently? It seems I can't win for losing. FWIW there are copious threads that get dropped by others and then rehashed all over again and that's not by me.

[jimnyc]

Am I required to go down there? Have I posted any "cage material" recently? It seems I can't win for losing. FWIW there are copious threads that get dropped by others and then rehashed all over again and that's not by me.

Fighting is not always "fuck you and fuck you" The back and forth inane fighting is old and tired. It always goes on and on and on. I have asked repeatedly for folks to start threads in here instead of having pages of back and forth crap which ruins thread after thread. No, there is absolutely no requirement to follow. But if you stay and continue the back and forth, it gets old. That thread was honestly ruined a LONG time ago, but I waited to see if the idea of moving things would work.

And yes, there are other places where folks will ruin a thread with back and forth BS. But WHO is involved in a feud, where this back and forth enters just about every thread that the 2 see one another in? If/when this happens, it will be addressed, I always have addressed the feuds and threads being ruined. If you have something in particular right now where 2 folks are doing the same, please PM me the info. I don't mean that to be snarky, but perhaps we see things differently. I truly don't see any other runaway feuds gong on that harm threads. I have been wrong hundreds of times before though, and maybe I am again.

There's a big difference between threads here and there being OT and screwed up by 2 people who disagree on something, and 2 people who apparently hate one another, refuse to ignore one another and refuse to just take crap to the cage as asked likely hundreds of times. And then don't understand or perhaps aggravated when shit gets moved here? Honestly, I should have been moving tons of shit here for a very long time, but I didn't want to offend either of you, or have any of you leave because you think I'm unfair about things. But ONE thread gets moved after this feud has been going on for HOW long? Sorry, I think I've been slightly fair in allowing things to go on, and not jumping on things prematurely or make it so that someone feels like they can't post. I believe I've been VERY fair with the both of you. It takes 2 to tango.

[fj1200]

Yes, this thread was ruined a long time ago and not by me. It was ruined by the same old rehashing of previous threads or previous themes and done by people who aren't me. Am I guilty of responding? Sure. But I rarely start things. Case in point: A cage thread started by someone who isn't me looking for some way to validate his whining.

[jimnyc]

Yes, this thread was ruined a long time ago and not by me. It was ruined by the same old rehashing of previous threads or previous themes and done by people who aren't me. Am I guilty of responding? Sure. But I rarely start things. Case in point: A cage thread started by someone who isn't me looking for some way to validate his whining.

Either you engage with him or you do not. It takes 2 to tango. I've not mentioned anything about who started things, nor do I even really care at this point of this 'feud'. I just want the back and forth to disappear is all, unless it's a good debate/discussion. I'm NOT pointing fingers here, but making a point: you get into the mud and play with piggies you WILL end up dirty. - again, not pointing, just making a point there. Regardless of who thinks who started it, "it" is the problem. Just as I have stated to him, you can make this issue disappear in a couple of ways, but you choose to engage, whether right or wrong.

I ask him to ignore and there are reasons to why that won't happen. I ask the same of you and don't see you placing him on ignore. I've asked both of you, like forever, to simply bring things down here and I'm a happy camper. Out of all this time, I think this is the first time done voluntarily?

And then eventually it's arguing over who started it, or there are others doing similar. This isn't Jim vs. Fj, I'd really rather not debate this with you. MY preference? I would prefer you place him on ignore and move on, get back to posting the way you used to. As for Drummond, the same. I think BOTH are very fine posters who I enjoy immensely reading their posts and what they have to share with us. But why shouldn't I hold both folks responsible for a never ending feud, when both folks have the fix right in their hands. I could see if someone was stating - "I LOVE that member but simply can't stop the fights...." then it would be difficult to use the ignore button. But we all know that's not the fact. Maybe not in direct words, but both have made it clear they couldn't care less if the other accidentally fell into a volcano, that the other starts it an all kinds of negative reasons. So you don't care for someone, and even point out where/why their posts suck - then place them on ignore, problem solved.

[Drummond]

as have you. It would be nice if you'd both zip up and stop altogether.

If this is any attempt to attribute blame to me, Kathianne, I resent it. STRONGLY. I suggest you direct your remarks of this nature solely at the cause of the contention. I remind you that I took the initiative to have it all transferred to the Cage. Your friend FJ has refused to take me up on that, instead preferring to continue HERE.

You wish to apportion blame ? Do so where it's DESERVED. Let's see some fairness from you !!

[Drummond]

I see that this has now been moved over to the Cage. A pity that it had to be .. but, the decision makes sense and (for what it's worth) I approve.

OK, FJ - get out of that one. Continue here, and you DO continue in the Cage, as I wanted !!! And considering what you posted to Abbey (which you didn't live up to !) ... you, too, should be delighted.

By the way, Tyr has you on 'ignore', as you should be aware. I'm beginning to come around to the idea that this, indeed, is the only way to deal with you. You, FJ, live for contention, and for trolling the MAIN board with it. You proved that by refusing to choose to go to the Cage yourself, when invited. Now, if you continue here, you're just stuck with Cage participation !!

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I see that this has now been moved over to the Cage. A pity that it had to be .. but, the decision makes sense and (for what it's worth) I approve.

OK, FJ - get out of that one. Continue here, and you DO continue in the Cage, as I wanted !!! And considering what you posted to Abbey (which you didn't live up to !) ... you, too, should be delighted.

By the way, Tyr has you on 'ignore', as you should be aware. I'm beginning to come around to the idea that this, indeed, is the only way to deal with you. You, FJ, live for contention, and for trolling the MAIN board with it. You proved that by refusing to choose to go to the Cage yourself, when invited. Now, if you continue here, you're just stuck with Cage participation !!

You have no idea what a blessing it is for me now --not to be dealing with fj. Freed up my time and made me realize how his stupidity ,lying and deception had caused me to post even less here at DP AND ENJOY MY TIME HERE FAR LESS.
Big D, methinks he is actually crazy.. AND I KNOW HE IS A LIBERAL.
You should put him on ignore my friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let him start attacking another target..--Tyr

[Drummond]

You have no idea what a blessing it is for me now --not to be dealing with fj. Freed up my time and made me realize how his stupidity ,lying and deception had caused me to post even less here at DP AND ENJOY MY TIME HERE FAR LESS.
Big D, methinks he is actually crazy.. AND I KNOW HE IS A LIBERAL.
You should put him on ignore my friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let him start attacking another target..--Tyr

Certainly, Tyr, things can't continue as they have been. Not sure if FJ is crazy ... though, his attempts at deception are transparent enough to be discerned for what they are .. YET .. he continues on, even after the irrationality of his position is laid bare. That does indeed suggest craziness, I suppose ....

[Kathianne]

At this point it seems you both suffer from obsession with each other.

[Drummond]

At this point it seems you both suffer from obsession with each other.

My post #308 surely refutes that.

I suggest you stop going out of your way to try and pin any measure of blame for FJ's contentious behaviour on me, and instead direct your energies at the troll truly responsible.

[Kathianne]

My post #308 surely refutes that.

I suggest you stop going out of your way to try and pin any measure of blame for FJ's contentious behaviour on me, and instead direct your energies at the troll truly responsible.

Actins speak louder than words.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Certainly, Tyr, things can't continue as they have been. Not sure if FJ is crazy ... though, his attempts at deception are transparent enough to be discerned for what they are .. YET .. he continues on, even after the irrationality of his position is laid bare. That does indeed suggest craziness, I suppose ....

Put his dumbass on ignore my friend.
A wise and prudent man would eventually see that he is crazy and/or a lib attempting to infect conservatives with his cleverly disguised lib insanity, then deny doing so.
My last posting in this thread, only posting this to get you to see the light.
Let the worm attack others, its in his nature. -Tyr

[Drummond]

Actins speak louder than words.

They do indeed. I can think of a certain past action of yours - a remedial one - which is STILL conspicuous by its absence.