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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I don't think Olivia addressed whites? Perhaps she feels some whites are like that too, I don't know, can't speak for her. If she meant ALL, I disagree, if she meant that there are a lot of black folks out there that feel that way, then I agree with her 100%
    So you want to agree with what you think she meant? OK. I'll stick with what she posted until I hear otherwise.

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    Are you referring to the part you bolded? Or the whole sentence or the whole post?
    The bolded part was ridiculous, the remainder set the premise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    So you want to agree with what you think she meant? OK. I'll stick with what she posted until I hear otherwise.
    That's not what I stated. I made my statements clear from the beginning, and then said perhaps as to her statement. I don't know specifically what she meant, but I'm sure she can update more when she sees this.

    Let me ask you, and never mind how she made her comment - do you think there are blacks out there that hate whites with a venom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    That's not what I stated. I made my statements clear from the beginning, and then said perhaps as to her statement. I don't know specifically what she meant, but I'm sure she can update more when she sees this.

    Let me ask you, and never mind how she made her comment - do you think there are blacks out there that hate whites with a venom?
    No, I think some hate with a vengeance. You qualified your statements with "if" which was your interpretation of what she meant. But hatred is not necessarily racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    No, I think some hate with a vengeance. You qualified your statements with "if" which was your interpretation of what she meant. But hatred is not necessarily racist.
    Is there any kind of hate that doesn't have vengeance in it? I know that may have been an expression on your part, but but doesn't hate drive a desire for vengeance, it's just a question of whether or not the desire is acted upon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Is there any kind of hate that doesn't have vengeance in it? I know that may have been an expression on your part, but but doesn't hate drive a desire for vengeance, it's just a question of whether or not the desire is acted upon?
    I was poking at the intitial expression. I believe it's hate with a vengeance, not venom. I'm not aware that vengeance is a necessary part of hate. One can hate without having to avenge anything I would think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    No, I think some hate with a vengeance. You qualified your statements with "if" which was your interpretation of what she meant. But hatred is not necessarily racist.
    Fine, I'm more than happy to clarify what I mean - there are blacks out there that hate whites with a venom, and it's because they are white, never even met the folks they hate. Anyone believing otherwise is very naive. I've seen it outside in person, and I can post endless videos from blacks speaking about their hatred for white people and wishing death and such, and just because they hate white people.

    Call it vengeance or venom, pretty much the same thing to me. We're talking about people that have a deep rooted hatred for white/black folks, and it exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Fine, I'm more than happy to clarify what I mean - there are blacks out there that hate whites with a venom, and it's because they are white, never even met the folks they hate. Anyone believing otherwise is very naive. I've seen it outside in person, and I can post endless videos from blacks speaking about their hatred for white people and wishing death and such, and just because they hate white people.

    Call it vengeance or venom, pretty much the same thing to me. We're talking about people that have a deep rooted hatred for white/black folks, and it exists.
    I didn't disagree with you. There are blacks that hate whites and whites that hate blacks. Do blacks have a justification to hate whites? Do whites have a justification to hate blacks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I didn't disagree with you. There are blacks that hate whites and whites that hate blacks. Do blacks have a justification to hate whites? Do whites have a justification to hate blacks?
    It all depends on the scenario.But in general, as in the masses - no they don't. But hell, there are a lot of whites that are still hated today over slavery - and no way in frickin hell are they justified in doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    It all depends on the scenario.But in general, as in the masses - no they don't. But hell, there are a lot of whites that are still hated today over slavery - and no way in frickin hell are they justified in doing so.
    In general whites weren't slaves, segregated against, or subject to Jim Crow laws. They have more justification than whites to hate blacks.
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