Violence A Problem?

[LongTermGuy]

I was responding directly to the post I quoted. How is punching someone not violent? How can it be justified in this case.

Get over it!

​Leftist...and racists have been doing it for years..."suka-punch" games..going to Republican rallies with the purpose of causing trouble...always has been passed off ...ignored..and not much done about it...but wait... **have a 76 year old man punch.. a punk-ass thug ( there intentionally to cause trouble) running his mouth and giving the finger to everybody...all of a sudden its...

"ooooouuu...ahhhh...OMG...oooo...ahhhhh...OMG!!!.. .look at that!! oh wow!"

**You should quit agreeing / defending the leftist and racists...*WE all know their Game...and so should you...

[Perianne]

If we all punched someone that flipped us off, most of us would be like that man that did so, arrested. I don't think throwing up the 'nasty finger,' justifies violence. I'd just flip you off back or laugh.

Right or wrong, I can say with certainty that if someone had flipped me off in the presence of my husband (RIP), there would have been a fight. A short one at that.

[fj1200]

Sure, selective, fake and of course lies. And whether you feel you are confused or not means very little to me.

What?

[Kathianne]

Related. A bit broader discussion, focusing on incident with reporter:

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/03/1...chelle-fields/



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http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/29/trump...n-florida.html

Trump campaign manager arrested, charged with battery of reporter

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Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's campaign manager was arrested in Florida on Tuesday and charged with simple battery, police records show.

The report from the Jupiter Police Department said Corey Lewandowski was charged for intentionally grabbing and bruising the arm of Michelle Fields, a former reporter for the conservative news outlet Breitbart, against her will at a Trump campaign event on March 8.

"Mr. Lewandowski is absolutely innocent of this charge," Trump said in a statement. "He will enter a plea of not guilty and looks forward to his day in court. He is completely confident that he will be exonerated."

Looks like we'll find out more:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christi...owski-n2140487

[Gunny]

If we all punched someone that flipped us off, most of us would be like that man that did so, arrested. I don't think throwing up the 'nasty finger,' justifies violence. I'd just flip you off back or laugh.

I think it depends on the situation. In context, the only reason someone who does not support Trump is at a Trump meeting is to disrupt and cause trouble. If you look solely at this board and the personalities, we don't all have the same temperment; especially, where politics are concerned. If I walked into a Billary meeting and started flipping off lefties I'd fully expect to get hit. Consequences of one's actions; whether or not you agree with those actions. If I go to SE DC after dark and don't expect to get attacked I'm living in my own little world. You won't find me on the west side of San Antonio after dark either. First lesson I learned in martial arts was the best way to stay out of a bar fight is don't go to the bar.

There are consequences for one's actions and when guys get neandertal, they start swinging. It's a fact. Everyone knows it. The guy brought it on himself as far as I'm concerned.

[Jeff]

Talking about punching someone in the face, yesterday I rode with a few friends and one had to be home at a certain time, so as we rode through a small town (the police call it Mayberry ) a pick up truck pulled right out in front of me, I am guessing he seen we where just coming through quiet and slow and figured he could beat us. Well I locked them up and through him the bird as he went by but the 2 nd bike said the guy through him the bird (that was a mistake) like I said this guy had to be home so I just kept going, in fact we where leaving town so I started to gas it up as I looked in the mirror and seen only one headlight behind me, way behind me, so I pulled over and waited for him, he said the other guy had went after the guy in the truck (i figured that is what happened, my buddy is a bit of a loose cannon) well I told the ol lady off and turned the bike around, gassed on it as I let the clutch out (never leave a Brother behind) the back tire spun and slid sideways as I hit second gear and the front tire came up about a foot (scared the hell out of me truth be told, didn't know I could still ride that way) well by the time I got to the scene I jumped off the bike and my buddy was walking away smiling. Seems the guy wouldn't stop so he kicked a dent in the door (that was the 2nd that day) he then laid back and the guy stopped at the stop sign and got out to check his truck, my buddy had pulled up well he was outside his truck he jumped off the bike and knocked the guy out. So as I walked up I seen the guy in his truck, my buddy put him back in the front seat (said this way the drunk would just believe he feel a sleep ) and I seen the door, the moral of the story is watch who ya are flipping off, yes we have read stories about super woman going after men and all that trash on these very pages, but like in this guys case, I flipped him off so he felt the best thing to do was flip off my buddy, wrong move.

As for the case with Trumps campaign manager, I seen a article a article about this issue and they had proof (a video) that showed nothing, looks like another case of the folks hating trump trying to make something out of nothing, unless of course there is a much better surveillance video I say its all BS.

I will post it y'all be the judge.

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[Gunny]

Talking about punching someone in the face, yesterday I rode with a few friends and one had to be home at a certain time, so as we rode through a small town (the police call it Mayberry ) a pick up truck pulled right out in front of me, I am guessing he seen we where just coming through quiet and slow and figured he could beat us. Well I locked them up and through him the bird as he went by but the 2 nd bike said the guy through him the bird (that was a mistake) like I said this guy had to be home so I just kept going, in fact we where leaving town so I started to gas it up as I looked in the mirror and seen only one headlight behind me, way behind me, so I pulled over and waited for him, he said the other guy had went after the guy in the truck (i figured that is what happened, my buddy is a bit of a loose cannon) well I told the ol lady off and turned the bike around, gassed on it as I let the clutch out (never leave a Brother behind) the back tire spun and slid sideways as I hit second gear and the front tire came up about a foot (scared the hell out of me truth be told, didn't know I could still ride that way) well by the time I got to the scene I jumped off the bike and my buddy was walking away smiling. Seems the guy wouldn't stop so he kicked a dent in the door (that was the 2nd that day) he then laid back and the guy stopped at the stop sign and got out to check his truck, my buddy had pulled up well he was outside his truck he jumped off the bike and knocked the guy out. So as I walked up I seen the guy in his truck, my buddy put him back in the front seat (said this way the drunk would just believe he feel a sleep ) and I seen the door, the moral of the story is watch who ya are flipping off, yes we have read stories about super woman going after men and all that trash on these very pages, but like in this guys case, I flipped him off so he felt the best thing to do was flip off my buddy, wrong move.

As for the case with Trumps campaign manager, I seen a article a article about this issue and they had proof (a video) that showed nothing, looks like another case of the folks hating trump trying to make something out of nothing, unless of course there is a much better surveillance video I say its all BS.

I will post it y'all be the judge.

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Get ready. bubba. These are just the preliminary cheap shots. If Trump is the candidate, it's going to be open warfare. And since our illustrious Coward in Chief sees fit to do nothing about these idiots, worse is coming.

[namvet]

the more violence the faster he gets there

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Talking about punching someone in the face, yesterday I rode with a few friends and one had to be home at a certain time, so as we rode through a small town (the police call it Mayberry ) a pick up truck pulled right out in front of me, I am guessing he seen we where just coming through quiet and slow and figured he could beat us. Well I locked them up and through him the bird as he went by but the 2 nd bike said the guy through him the bird (that was a mistake) like I said this guy had to be home so I just kept going, in fact we where leaving town so I started to gas it up as I looked in the mirror and seen only one headlight behind me, way behind me, so I pulled over and waited for him, he said the other guy had went after the guy in the truck (i figured that is what happened, my buddy is a bit of a loose cannon) well I told the ol lady off and turned the bike around, gassed on it as I let the clutch out (never leave a Brother behind) the back tire spun and slid sideways as I hit second gear and the front tire came up about a foot (scared the hell out of me truth be told, didn't know I could still ride that way) well by the time I got to the scene I jumped off the bike and my buddy was walking away smiling. Seems the guy wouldn't stop so he kicked a dent in the door (that was the 2nd that day) he then laid back and the guy stopped at the stop sign and got out to check his truck, my buddy had pulled up well he was outside his truck he jumped off the bike and knocked the guy out. So as I walked up I seen the guy in his truck, my buddy put him back in the front seat (said this way the drunk would just believe he feel a sleep ) and I seen the door, the moral of the story is watch who ya are flipping off, yes we have read stories about super woman going after men and all that trash on these very pages, but like in this guys case, I flipped him off so he felt the best thing to do was flip off my buddy, wrong move.

As for the case with Trumps campaign manager, I seen a article a article about this issue and they had proof (a video) that showed nothing, looks like another case of the folks hating trump trying to make something out of nothing, unless of course there is a much better surveillance video I say its all BS.

I will post it y'all be the judge.

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A little well deserved violence-if administered the right way , goes a long way as a damn fine attitude adjustment.
I should know, after having administered well over a hundred back in my wild youth.
Of course about half were on the job and the money was very good-exspecially for just having fun!-Tyr

[PixieStix]

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/29/trump...n-florida.html




Looks like we'll find out more:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christi...owski-n2140487

What we have here is a failure to recognized same shit different political situation. Michell Fields turns out to be a drama queen attention getter from hell. ...who has a book coming out in June. hmmmm

BREAKING, EXCLUSIVE: Allen West Has Sexually Harassed At Least Two Women

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This is when she accused Allen West of groping her

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Here she was beaten by NYPD with batons no less Daily Caller reporter, videographer assaulted by NYPD during ‘Occupy’ protests

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/17/daily-caller-reporter-videographer-assaulted-by-nypd-during-occupy-protests/#ixzz44LvBwgxg

[Kathianne]

Blaming the victim seldom works, even if there is a 'real past.' The police wouldn't have gone along with Fields if the video wasn't there, they cite it in the arrest report.

There should have been a terse apology, perhaps with a bit about 'protecting the candidate,' and moved on.

[Kathianne]

Blaming the victim seldom works, even if there is a 'real past.' The police wouldn't have gone along with Fields if the video wasn't there, they cite it in the arrest report.

There should have been a terse apology, perhaps with a bit about 'protecting the candidate,' and moved on.

After reading your links to the West story and the Occupy story, I'm confused why you would use sources that tend to make the reporter out to be a truth teller? While I like much of what West writes, he seems to have a problem with women-brought up in what you cited and other reports. Fields repeatedly asked not to mention her in any stories.

The other of the occupy story also tends to reinforce what was reported about the incident-the police were outnumbered and got 'rough.' She did not try to press charges, indeed from the account you cite, the police helped her up after knocking her down.